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Can a tour with early booking be more expensive than buying 2 weeks in advance.
Arranged an early booking tour. On February 2, they paid 50 percent and at the beginning of March another 50 percent. An early booking tour was purchased with a discount of up to 50 percent. Two weeks before departure, the price of the tour was 11 thousand lower. How is this possible, what kind of deception of tourists?
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аватар razina1
Can I get a refund for a tour? Or get compensated for the price ratio of early booking and today.
аватар Pachok
Not only is this possible, but it usually is.
Everything that is possible with regard to cancellation or compensation is described in your contract, read carefully.
аватар miranda-tour
This is possible, usually hotels give very good discounts for early bookings, and in the last 2 weeks the price can be lower if the hotel sells poorly or tours are rejected, then hotels reduce the price very much. And no one will return your money.
аватар Mascot71
It's like a roulette in a casino, bet on half a table and spin...
аватар sigur62
Another argument in favor of the fact that the so-called. "early booking" is unreasonable, inconvenient, and, it turns out, also unprofitable.
Buy a tour long before departure, trembling and worrying so that nothing happens in the family before departure, health is not shaken, the vacation schedule at work does not change ... at the same time, buying is not cheaper, but more expensive)))
Maybe there is something in it, but I just don't understand it.
аватар Mascot71
But there is a chance to enjoy monitoring creeping prices
аватар sigur62
Or crawling down.
аватар Pachok
The second happens more often. If you do not take the super popular hotels, which in May go to a stop for the whole season.
аватар Mascot71
Is it worth the risk and go to the unpopular? From savings? Well, I tried it once and spent more on street cafes than I saved.
аватар Pachok
I did not understand the essence of your question. Super popular (those that are immediately in the foot) can be counted on the fingers of one hand on the entire coast. Yes, and now they are not being sold as much as they were a few years ago, the prices have been raised too much. And in the rest there is no reason to take RB at all, since it will be cheaper before departure. RB is just a sales technique, it is very beneficial for TO, but not for tourists.
Z.Y. And not to be confused with RB from the hotels themselves and from airlines - all over the world it just works fine :)
аватар sigur62
I think that if such hotels can be counted on the fingers, and hundreds of different hotels are being sold near the Republic of Belarus, then ... they are being sucked in by just those that are not filled by anyone, except for the suckers who succumbed to the hype and bought the Republic of Belarus, and then sadly watching the fall in prices to these hotels.
So, dear Pachok?
аватар Pachok
Almost. Both bad and good ones are sucked in, not only those that are not filled. Yes, and I would not scatter "suckers". People may just be gullible or inexperienced. Here, as the author of the question "How is this possible, what kind of deception of tourists?". But legally there may not be a deceit - maybe there really is a 30-50% discount from the base price for the whole season? The only trick is that open source software is regularly released at prices much lower.
аватар sigur62
Thanks)))
I'm starting to get into the tourist business, I'll leave the power grid, I'll go as an agent.
аватар Mascot71
"I'll throw the power grid", oh yes, we are colleagues.
аватар sigur62
Yes! Glad to see!
Also our colleague alex45.
аватар TINAEkb
I always book in Belarus. There are several reasons: 1. Single quickly goes to the stop (I travel alone) 2. Seats on planes from the regions quickly run out. etc.) It makes sense to book in advance from the regions. The hotel I have chosen has never fallen in price before departure, it rises in price by at least 100-150 dollars :)
аватар Oleksii64
If possible, more about the single. Usually a single is just a double, why does it have to stop before a double? If there is an airline and there is a hotel, but they don’t sell a single, are these tricky frills of individual MOTs?
аватар sigur62
I think so too.
It is unreasonable for a hotel to just take and put a single (and in fact the same double) in the stop, expecting that it will be filled with two people instead of one.
Although, maybe I don't understand something.
аватар Sergey4467
I took early booking tours for two years. Then from February to September I followed the prices. four / 2 weeks. Another thing is that the seats on the plane ended earlier ...
аватар Oleksii64
Don't forget, TO uses your money for 8 months. Interestingly, on a bank deposit, you would not have recaptured these 5 thousand?
аватар igor196017
Last year, there was no difference in 3 * hotels, what about early booking, what month I took. Monitored specifically. In some 4 and 5 in RB it was a little cheaper. But here the whole snag is in the number of seats on the plane. There are almost always places in hotels, but there may not be places on a plane from a certain city.
аватар igor196017
Oleksii64 hotels benefit from Double than Single. The room is one, and the profit from 2 people is more than from 1.
аватар HotLine
As you can see, there are questions that even expert users cannot give a definite answer to. Therefore, I will voice a few theses.
First, to understand the process, it is necessary, first of all, to correctly perceive the tourism market as such. As long as the subconscious mind is working with the scheme “Pushing in ...”, there will be no understanding. Recreation is a huge segment of the economy. And standard economic and marketing patterns work in it. Those. if some mechanism is launched (for example, RB), then this is not “sucking in”, and this mechanism has certain economic and marketing reasons.
Secondly, all subjects of this market segment operate in conditions of fierce competition. In particular, this is why operators and carriers go bankrupt, the owners of hotels change. Competition is a universal mechanism for market development. And the development of the market is the improvement of conditions and offers for the consumer. That is why the Republic of Belarus is a real mechanism for stimulating the market, which is beneficial to everyone - hotels, operators, consumers.
аватар HotLine
Hotels receive payment before the start of the season, which allows them to prepare for the season. If someone thinks that all the money for RB remains with the operator, then he is mistaken (remember - competition). The operator receives volumes that allow him to form a flight program, buy guaranteed blocks for the season, arrange exclusive relations, etc. The carrier begins to form a fleet for the season and build further development plans. Competition forces them to do this under favorable conditions for the tourist (partial payment, lower price).
We book tours in Belarus every year. Tourists then follow the profitability of such a step. Take my word for it, there are very few people who are dissatisfied with such a step. Perhaps that is why this year, more than ever, there are a lot of RB. This is a fact and all conclusions must be drawn from it. Those. to explain it in market and economic terms, and not "sucking in".
аватар HotLine
Can then the prices be lower than the Republic of Belarus? They can. Under certain circumstances, standard for the well-known process of "burning". For some reason, flights are not closed - they did not calculate with the charter program, someone entered the market and dumped, demand fell due to some events, etc. standard market mechanisms. But the economics of the process ensures that it can be short-term and for a specific product. Last year, Turkey, for example, did not burn.
аватар sigur62
Thanks for the sensible thoughts, old man, pluses from me.
Then another question. Is there RB in European countries, or is it purely our post-Soviet know-how? It's just that I have friends abroad, and they look with a smile as my countrymen buy out tours for the next September in October, they don't understand this.
аватар 19062005
Europe will definitely not understand us. they have a bunch of social programs for vacations, not to mention pensioners, who sometimes find it more profitable to spend half the winter in Turkey-Egypt than pay for a communal apartment at home. Yes, and they will have more income, and often tours from them are cheaper than from us. Of course, it's good where we are not, but it's a fact. I talked at the hotel with many foreign tourists, and they all paid less for the tour than we did. of course, there are many factors - the price of the flight, etc., but the fact remains. and our desire to save 100-200 bucks on vacation, gaining RB or last-minute tours, is quite understandable. and there is nothing to laugh at, especially since people living abroad themselves will never refuse a discount and a cheap tour.
аватар HotLine
And who laughed at the desire to save money? Natural desire.
But I laughed at the "import tourists".
"often tours from them are cheaper." If somewhere the price is higher or lower, then there are certain economic and market prerequisites for this. Not the "greed" of operators, as alex45 once proved. But that's a topic for another discussion.
аватар HotLine
More interesting is the question from the old sigur62. “Is there RB in European countries, or is it purely our post-Soviet know-how?”. Answer: yes. Everything is there - RB, installments, deposits, loans, social programs, last minute and the most surprising thing for us - non-cash payments for tours. Each tourist has his own scheme. The main difference from us is the scale of the process with the ensuing consequences. More recently, the number of German tourists visiting Turkey exceeded the total number of tourists from all CIS countries. And let's compare the population of Germany and the CIS. At the same time, Turkey is not as important for the Germans as it is for us.
The largest operator in Europe is TUI. Annual revenue is about 20 billion euros. English is closer to me, so we look at http://www.thomson.co.uk. Immediately at the start - a deposit promotion: book a tour for May-October now, make a deposit and get a guaranteed 10% discount. What is it? Early booking form.
аватар HotLine
And here we see examples of the European Republic of Belarus. What is a lowcost? This is an early flight booking. As the flight approaches, the price rises so much that Lufthansa decides to create its own low-cost Direct 4 You. Those. the final earnings of the low-cost airline are no less than those of the regular season.
And various bookings for which there are no boundaries. Are there RB prices? There is. And 90% of the conversations of self-tourists are about this. Okay, 60%. And when everyone figure out how to pay with cards, then everything is 100%.
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