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Kemer, please respond, those who are faced with the arbitrariness that is now happening with the isolation of tourists
We arrived on 07.09.2020. We were isolated in the Mirada Del Mar hotel, no one gave us any supporting documents, there was no understanding of what was happening! Perhaps someone else has been in a similar situation!
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assent 2015, normally I followed and monitor the situation, sorry of course, but the order of your Rospotrebnadzor does not bother me at all, as well as the cost of the test in St. Petersburg.
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answered 4 years ago
Upon the death of a Ukrainian tourist, clarification, his test was positive and his daughters too, his wife was negative, but his wife had flu symptoms and she was sick
The wife said that they drank flu medicine and only on the 4th day when her husband became very ill went to the hospital
It's just terrible that the family, knowing the situation with the pandemic and realizing that they might have fallen ill with coronavirus, endangered the entire hotel for 4 days
The wife said that they drank flu medicine and only on the 4th day when her husband became very ill went to the hospital
It's just terrible that the family, knowing the situation with the pandemic and realizing that they might have fallen ill with coronavirus, endangered the entire hotel for 4 days
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Vika284, okay, they remembered the hotel, here they give advice on how to buy a fake test and how to bring down the temperature on the plane, and you are worried about the hotel. Our people have no conscience, no one cares about anyone else, they only think about themselves.
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zolyshka111, Well, firstly, Rospotrebnadzor is not mine, but Rossi. And secondly, it’s very stupid to be interested in only one side of traveling abroad, in the conditions of * corona *. And even more so, it is clumsy to talk about this topic without having been on vacation in these difficult conditions. And thirdly, - information about the test, and prices not for you, but for the rest of the Furomites.
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zolyshka111, Well, firstly, Rospotrebnadzor is not mine, but Rossi. Secondly, it is very unwise to be interested in only one side of traveling abroad, in the conditions of * corona *. And even more so, it is clumsy to talk about this topic without having been on vacation in these difficult conditions. And thirdly, information about the test and prices is not for you, but for everyone who cares about this info.
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assent 2015, brilliant! So, in this difficult time, I just don’t go abroad, in order to avoid unnecessary waste of strength, nerves, money, etc. Critical thinking is highly recommended.
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By the way, none of the friends, in the media reports, writes from which TO this family bought the tour. The family just bought a package tour. But they had problems with insurance, because travel insurance was designed for 14 days of their stay, and the head of the family was sick for longer and died when the insurance ended, and the family and friends themselves, without naming the insurance company, say they just had insurance under the SPORT B program
And VUSO has this type of insurance, which provides such insurance for tours from TO Anex
It is already more clear why tourists suffer in the hotels of the Kemer region and the Anex operator
And VUSO has this type of insurance, which provides such insurance for tours from TO Anex
It is already more clear why tourists suffer in the hotels of the Kemer region and the Anex operator
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answered 4 years ago
Think for yourself, because everyone is free to do as they please. There is a completely different topic being discussed here. I ask advice only from those whose opinion is competent and respected by me personally. As for critical thinking, it's not about your conclusions at all ..
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them at the door, and they at the window ... oh, these desperate tourists! ((
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Vika284, to be honest, I don’t see any real connection: Anex, VUSO, Kemer region, Kemer hotels. VUSO standard insurance in 2020 also uses, for example, the tour operator "Koral" with accommodation in hotels in other regions of the Antalya coast.
Regarding the death of a man from Ukraine in Kemer. May the earth rest in peace for him. My words of condolences to relatives and friends. You wouldn't wish what happened to your enemy.
Well, let's be honest and frank: problems with the repatriation of the body were always beaten, from any country and after any diagnosis, posthumously. It is clear that each insurance company begins to think what to do. And, as a rule, everything starts to move from its place after diplomatic negotiations between the two countries. It also added that the insurance was ending. Let's not procrastinate here anymore about the deceased. The wife lost her dear husband, the daughter lost her loving father.
Regarding the death of a man from Ukraine in Kemer. May the earth rest in peace for him. My words of condolences to relatives and friends. You wouldn't wish what happened to your enemy.
Well, let's be honest and frank: problems with the repatriation of the body were always beaten, from any country and after any diagnosis, posthumously. It is clear that each insurance company begins to think what to do. And, as a rule, everything starts to move from its place after diplomatic negotiations between the two countries. It also added that the insurance was ending. Let's not procrastinate here anymore about the deceased. The wife lost her dear husband, the daughter lost her loving father.
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haber-x, tourists are not desperate, I'm not talking about those who brought down the temperature, and so on. I'm talking about those people who are used to taking themselves to the sea every year. Yes, they want, they can, they practice. I would like to replace that if the situation is so bad, why open borders and promote holidays in Turkey?! Who should be asked for a ruined vacation, lost money and time .. From tour operators and agencies, or from those who opened the borders?! Tourists are different, most of them are good. Here is wisdom, on the topic of the day, so to speak, * the fish rots from the head *
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answered 4 years ago
"And they colorfully painted and promised that they would do tests at their own expense and treat the infected."
Olgaolga153, give proofs for study, please.
Olgaolga153, give proofs for study, please.
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answered 4 years ago
I'm wildly sorry, but how does this isolation in the room technically look like? Have you been locked up or what?
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Veronika7081 as you put it, not "procrastinate", but the tragic experience of tourists, which shows that
- the cheapest standard insurance with covid coverage that is provided in the usual travel package does not cover the cost of treatment due to the fact that the action is very limited, when the 14 days of hospital stay ended (these are the conditions for such insurance), the tourist's family paid for several days of treatment from their own funds
- the fact that tourists hid their symptoms in order to relax and self-medicate for at least 4 days, and maybe more days, endangering all guests, including children, the Akka Alinda hotel and hotel staff, we do not know how many people got sick and died whom they managed to infect
Yes, 100% I have a bad attitude and condemn those people who, regardless of whether the flu, coronavirus, chickenpox ... do not cancel their vacation so as not to lose money for the tour, but take medication that blurs the picture of the disease and go to rest
- the cheapest standard insurance with covid coverage that is provided in the usual travel package does not cover the cost of treatment due to the fact that the action is very limited, when the 14 days of hospital stay ended (these are the conditions for such insurance), the tourist's family paid for several days of treatment from their own funds
- the fact that tourists hid their symptoms in order to relax and self-medicate for at least 4 days, and maybe more days, endangering all guests, including children, the Akka Alinda hotel and hotel staff, we do not know how many people got sick and died whom they managed to infect
Yes, 100% I have a bad attitude and condemn those people who, regardless of whether the flu, coronavirus, chickenpox ... do not cancel their vacation so as not to lose money for the tour, but take medication that blurs the picture of the disease and go to rest
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Vika284. We do not know exactly all the details for each case. Yes, we won't know. It's easy to judge.
So let's start condemning those adults who "rush" to the school building to pick up children without a mask, brazenly making their way through the duty officer; knowing that they passed the PLR test and not getting the result, they go to celebrate with friends for a wedding and birthday, and then having received a positive .result, they simply sigh thoughtfully, those who are “fallen” to put on a mask in public places, etc. etc. Yes, Vika, I agree: you can’t fly with a temperature, because you are deceiving yourself and your family first of all. This is everyone's responsibility. She either exists or she doesn't.
In fact, I see only one option so far to continue tours to Turkey and Egypt, take extended insurance, take a PCR test for covid before the flight, take an individual transfer. But I think that the Turks, towards the end of the season, will themselves close the borders for foreign citizens in a month.
So let's start condemning those adults who "rush" to the school building to pick up children without a mask, brazenly making their way through the duty officer; knowing that they passed the PLR test and not getting the result, they go to celebrate with friends for a wedding and birthday, and then having received a positive .result, they simply sigh thoughtfully, those who are “fallen” to put on a mask in public places, etc. etc. Yes, Vika, I agree: you can’t fly with a temperature, because you are deceiving yourself and your family first of all. This is everyone's responsibility. She either exists or she doesn't.
In fact, I see only one option so far to continue tours to Turkey and Egypt, take extended insurance, take a PCR test for covid before the flight, take an individual transfer. But I think that the Turks, towards the end of the season, will themselves close the borders for foreign citizens in a month.
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answered 4 years ago
I'm glad you raised the issue of insurance. frankly, I never thought about it at all and stupidly bought policies for a period: the day of departure - the day of arrival. I didn’t even think about buying a policy when buying a package tour. and it is necessary...
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answered 4 years ago
@olennka - Technically, they didn't close us with a key, they took us to a room in a separate building, they told us to sit in it, we face a fine for leaving.
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pepper17, there are grounds for a claim .. There was no freedom of movement, and you seemed to be talking about the security of the room .. Only how to prove it all ..
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There is no solution. My position on this matter is simple. I began to voice it from the very first case of an epidemic in the city of Wuhan - DO NOT EXPERIENCE THE CASE. A trip, any trip, is a coincidence of unforeseen circumstances, and in such a difficult situation, everything becomes more complicated, which happened to you. Now you want someone to fix the problems. You have to think with your head, and not just eat it!
There is no solution. My position on this matter is simple. I began to voice it from the very first case of an epidemic in the city of Wuhan - DO NOT EXPERIENCE THE CASE. A trip, any trip, is a coincidence of unforeseen circumstances, and in such a difficult situation, everything becomes more complicated, which happened to you. Now you want someone to fix the problems. You have to think with your head, and not just eat it!
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fun, I see, in Turkey...
pepper-17, unfortunately the continuation of your story has apparently been deleted, but the meaning is clear. I sympathize and hope that you will be able to achieve at least moral compensation
pepper-17, unfortunately the continuation of your story has apparently been deleted, but the meaning is clear. I sympathize and hope that you will be able to achieve at least moral compensation
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pepper-17,
throw, pliz, your story in the hotel reviews!
https://www.turpravda.ua/tr/kemer/Mirada_Del_Mar-h17596.html#reviews
throw, pliz, your story in the hotel reviews!
https://www.turpravda.ua/tr/kemer/Mirada_Del_Mar-h17596.html#reviews
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pepper-17, and the size of the fine, of course, found it difficult to name?))
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ollennka, On the day of isolation, the amount of the fine by the Russian-speaking representative was announced at 3K Euro, the next day, when they brought the documents for taking the test in English, there was a maximum bar of 3,150 Turkish liras.
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Well, as I see it, hotels and operators are not childishly creative and break the law. That's why I think it's not superfluous to involve the police.
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To be honest, I also don’t understand why, when tourists in a hotel begin to be intimidated by the police, they immediately droop and agree to imprisonment. I think that it is necessary, on the contrary, to call the police and let them explain all the rights of tourists and hotel management, and preferably in writing, so that later there will be evidence for the court with TO.
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ollennka The problem is that I called the Kemer police at 155. The first one called at 19:00. For five minutes I tried to explain to a police officer who did not speak English very well (but very friendly) that we were isolated, worried about our own safety and could not get confirmation from the hotel of the legality of our imprisonment. The girl said that she would contact the hotel representatives. She asked me to call back in 20 minutes. As a result, she managed to contact the reception closer to 22:00 and she answered my question that they would contact me, drum roll, representatives of the hotel.
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I would have walked all the way to the precinct, to be honest. The hotel workers will not use force.
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Judging by the reviews we read about this hotel, even before this whole pandemic situation, there were precedents for security calls when guests complained about Guest Relations. Comparing the facts that we are in another country, the language of which we do not know, the representatives of the hotel are not very unfriendly, we do not know what instructions are given from the hotel management to the security staff, we do not know the laws of this country, the police do not speak English at a very level, which will ensure a complete understanding - we decided that, perhaps, it is not worth going into direct confrontation and leaving the place of isolation.
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pepper-17, Why didn't they try to contact their embassy in Turkey? There, they definitely know the Russian language and the laws of Turkey.
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nataha33 And who said that we did not try to contact? I called the Russian consulate in Antalya, the answer was: They do not currently have clarifications from the local authorities, please resolve all issues with the host, that is, Anex Tour. We wrote down our names. I also put them in a copy of my email to the hotel, the Ministry of Health of Turkey and the Ministry of Tourism and Culture of Turkey (if I'm not mistaken)
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