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I want to fly to France via Turkey. I changed citizenship from Ukrainian to Russian (I did not refuse Ukrainian), can there be problems at the border?
I want to fly to France via Turkey. I changed citizenship from Ukrainian to Russian (I did not refuse Ukrainian), can there be problems at the border?
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It is unlikely that Turkey and France are interested in your change of citizenship.))) If you have a Schengen visa, then everything is ok.
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answered 5 years ago
Do you know that dual citizenship is prohibited?
which way do you want to enter?
which way do you want to enter?
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answered 5 years ago
It all depends on which passport you are flying on. If with Ukrainian biometrics, then you are a Ukrainian citizen for them, if with Russian, then, accordingly, a Russian with the ensuing Schengen requirements.
In general, now a bunch of the worst people will come running here with their condemnations, censures, and the topic will be lost. Therefore, you are not asking there.
In general, now a bunch of the worst people will come running here with their condemnations, censures, and the topic will be lost. Therefore, you are not asking there.
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answered 5 years ago
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It's very twisted and complicated. If according to the passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation, then you need a foreign passport (there are two types: 1. Regular passport (for 5 years) and 2. Foreign passport with an electronic carrier (for 10 years). To enter France, you need a visa .. ("Schengen visa "... obligatory submission of biometric data, fingerprinting procedure). The entire journey, from the beginning to the end point, must be done with one passport. It will not work to take out the passport of the Ukrainian citizen from your pocket in Turkey and continue to travel on a "visa-free" basis.
It's very twisted and complicated. If according to the passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation, then you need a foreign passport (there are two types: 1. Regular passport (for 5 years) and 2. Foreign passport with an electronic carrier (for 10 years). To enter France, you need a visa .. ("Schengen visa "... obligatory submission of biometric data, fingerprinting procedure). The entire journey, from the beginning to the end point, must be done with one passport. It will not work to take out the passport of the Ukrainian citizen from your pocket in Turkey and continue to travel on a "visa-free" basis.
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answered 5 years ago
And actually, why can’t you enter and leave France with a Ukrainian passport, and Turkey with a Russian one? It's also a working option.
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answered 5 years ago
well, not quite a worker, all the same, an entry-exit mark is put, that is, it will be put in a Russian passport ... but in a Ukrainian one (and it’s not a fact that the author has biometrics, then all these troubles are not needed, Schengen anyway needed) it will not be, that is, he entered Turkey on one passport, and left for Europe on another.
author do not bother, apply for a visa and go
and what should be the problem? you are flying through Turkey, and not through Ukraine.
author do not bother, apply for a visa and go
and what should be the problem? you are flying through Turkey, and not through Ukraine.
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answered 5 years ago
"I entered Turkey on one passport, and left for Europe on another"
No, they didn't understand that. Departure from Turkey will still be on a Russian passport. And already entry into France and exit from it is possible in Ukrainian. Well, this is so, for general development, and not specifically for the situation of the author of the question.
No, they didn't understand that. Departure from Turkey will still be on a Russian passport. And already entry into France and exit from it is possible in Ukrainian. Well, this is so, for general development, and not specifically for the situation of the author of the question.
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answered 5 years ago
With such a scheme, as suggested above, that to Turkey with one passport, and to France already with Ukrainian. passport, the question immediately arises of how a person got to Turkey if, when crossing the Turkey-France border, he shows Ukrainian. passport? (without a mark in the Ukrainian passport that he arrived in Turkey, as it is in the Russian passport).
If you plan to travel in Russian. passport, then in France to show a Russian passport and draw up a Schengen.
If you plan to travel in Russian. passport, then in France to show a Russian passport and draw up a Schengen.
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answered 5 years ago
People, please read carefully what I wrote. Departure from Turkey on a Russian passport (since he entered on a Russian one). And entry into France can be in Ukrainian. France is generally not interested in the stamps of Turkey or Russia.
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answered 5 years ago
Ol, I got you ;)
but it’s very confused and this is only if the author has biometrics
for others, arrival and departure from Turkey in Russian, and passing control in France is already in Ukrainian. (if there is biometrics, then a visa is not needed)
but it’s very confused and this is only if the author has biometrics
for others, arrival and departure from Turkey in Russian, and passing control in France is already in Ukrainian. (if there is biometrics, then a visa is not needed)
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answered 5 years ago
Well, how confused ... About six months ago, there was about the same question, only there a person flew to Thailand from Russia and the question was about internal and foreign passports. I got confused because there was no other way out.
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answered 5 years ago
ollennka
All travel must be on the same passport. Either in Ukrainian or Russian. Border crossings are tracked at the borders. It will not work to take out biometrics (Ukrainian) in Turkey and go further to France on a "visa-free" basis. There will be no grounds for a citizen of Ukraine who entered Turkey without crossing the border.
All travel must be on the same passport. Either in Ukrainian or Russian. Border crossings are tracked at the borders. It will not work to take out biometrics (Ukrainian) in Turkey and go further to France on a "visa-free" basis. There will be no grounds for a citizen of Ukraine who entered Turkey without crossing the border.
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answered 5 years ago
this summer I saw such cunning tourists themselves for 2 countries of citizens
a real example but with Greece: departure and arrival in Turkey Bodrum from a Russian city with a Russian passport and an unsuccessful attempt to get on a ferry to the island of Rhodes with a Ukrainian biometric passport, if the Turks themselves do not stop with a Russian passport to leave for Greece, then the Greeks will definitely no longer let in not Russian and not Ukrainian - such cunning tourists sit for 6-7 hours in the buffer zone and wait for the return ferry to Turkey
And this is despite the great loyalty of the Greeks to Russian citizens, but loyalty is only 100% to the citizens of Russia, and not 50/50
The Ukrainian biometric passport contains additional information about the place of residence, if the place of residence is the occupied territories, then there are always big questions
a real example but with Greece: departure and arrival in Turkey Bodrum from a Russian city with a Russian passport and an unsuccessful attempt to get on a ferry to the island of Rhodes with a Ukrainian biometric passport, if the Turks themselves do not stop with a Russian passport to leave for Greece, then the Greeks will definitely no longer let in not Russian and not Ukrainian - such cunning tourists sit for 6-7 hours in the buffer zone and wait for the return ferry to Turkey
And this is despite the great loyalty of the Greeks to Russian citizens, but loyalty is only 100% to the citizens of Russia, and not 50/50
The Ukrainian biometric passport contains additional information about the place of residence, if the place of residence is the occupied territories, then there are always big questions
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answered 5 years ago
There is no need to mix "occupied territories" here. Don't push. There is a general order. A citizen must enter the country legally (cross the border). He entered Turkey as a citizen of the Russian Federation (a citizen of Ukraine did not enter Turkey, which means he is illegally). When he tries to leave Turkey on a Ukrainian "visa-free" basis, the question will arise, how did he, a citizen of Ukraine, get to Turkey?
so-called. "Occupied territories" has nothing to do with it ...
so-called. "Occupied territories" has nothing to do with it ...
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answered 5 years ago
lazy_person
ollennka meant to fly from Turkey to France with a Russian passport, and in France the Ukrainian one is already under control ...
but I don't understand why it's so annoying
because the author does not write what exactly he is afraid of
in fact, more than half of Ukrainians who have other citizenship (passports) did not renounce Ukrainian citizenship, because this is still the same hemorrhoids.
when there was a big wave of migration in the 90s to the USA and Canada, most of which are already citizens of these countries, they were not at all aware that they should renounce citizenship and many still had passports, it just makes no sense to use them
ollennka meant to fly from Turkey to France with a Russian passport, and in France the Ukrainian one is already under control ...
but I don't understand why it's so annoying
because the author does not write what exactly he is afraid of
in fact, more than half of Ukrainians who have other citizenship (passports) did not renounce Ukrainian citizenship, because this is still the same hemorrhoids.
when there was a big wave of migration in the 90s to the USA and Canada, most of which are already citizens of these countries, they were not at all aware that they should renounce citizenship and many still had passports, it just makes no sense to use them
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answered 5 years ago
AllOverTheWorld
To fly to France on a Russian passport, you need a visa. And apparently she doesn't! Otherwise, why all this talk? If you have a visa, then you don't need a second passport. The question is twisted from the very beginning. Apparently, the owner has Ukrainian biometrics (and the right to “visa-free”), but they probably won’t be allowed to enter France from the Russian Federation with it, and it’s not clear how and with what passport the citizen himself entered the Russian Federation?
Hence the problematic question in the post...
To fly to France on a Russian passport, you need a visa. And apparently she doesn't! Otherwise, why all this talk? If you have a visa, then you don't need a second passport. The question is twisted from the very beginning. Apparently, the owner has Ukrainian biometrics (and the right to “visa-free”), but they probably won’t be allowed to enter France from the Russian Federation with it, and it’s not clear how and with what passport the citizen himself entered the Russian Federation?
Hence the problematic question in the post...
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answered 5 years ago
lazy_person fully support! travel should be all on 1 passport. What I said earlier, that as a person with Ukrainian. appeared in Turkey with a passport if he did not cross the border (crossed only a citizen of the Russian Federation)? That is, he left illegally.
And then the following questions arise... I was deported, what should I do? what to do if the red stamp in the passport is deportation or prohibition of entry into the country?
And then the following questions arise... I was deported, what should I do? what to do if the red stamp in the passport is deportation or prohibition of entry into the country?
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answered 5 years ago
You can travel with 2 passports, still the same example from life
In 2016, a tourist who had two Ukrainian passports for traveling abroad, not a biometric and a Polish passport, legally enters from Kyiv to Turkey using a Ukrainian foreign passport, when leaving Bodrum on a ferry at the border, he shows the Ukrainian foreign passport to Turkish border guards and at the entrance to the border of the island of Kos shows Polish passport and everything is OK
In Germany, there is a large Turkish diaspora and many have 2 German and Turkish passports, there are German citizens who work in Turkey during the season or who have a business related to tourism. In order not to get a work visa or not to limit the time of their vacation in Turkey, they leave Germany with a German passport, and enter Turkey with a Turkish passport and everything is legal
In 2016, a tourist who had two Ukrainian passports for traveling abroad, not a biometric and a Polish passport, legally enters from Kyiv to Turkey using a Ukrainian foreign passport, when leaving Bodrum on a ferry at the border, he shows the Ukrainian foreign passport to Turkish border guards and at the entrance to the border of the island of Kos shows Polish passport and everything is OK
In Germany, there is a large Turkish diaspora and many have 2 German and Turkish passports, there are German citizens who work in Turkey during the season or who have a business related to tourism. In order not to get a work visa or not to limit the time of their vacation in Turkey, they leave Germany with a German passport, and enter Turkey with a Turkish passport and everything is legal
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answered 5 years ago
Upon receipt of a visa to the Schengen countries and the occupied territories, if a citizen of Ukraine lived on the territory of Ukraine which is now occupied and received a Russian passport during the occupation, then all the same for all Schengen countries and other countries this person is a citizen of Ukraine, therefore, a Schengen visa in his Russian passport will not put.
Ukrainian citizens with biometric passports residing in the occupied territories can absolutely legally leave the territory of Ukraine through official checkpoints to any country, including Russia and Turkey, and then travel to the countries of the European Union with their Ukrainian biometric passport
Ukrainian citizens with biometric passports residing in the occupied territories can absolutely legally leave the territory of Ukraine through official checkpoints to any country, including Russia and Turkey, and then travel to the countries of the European Union with their Ukrainian biometric passport
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answered 5 years ago
Guys, I'm not saying that you can do this and that ... I will apply for a visa and fly on a Russian passport and back and forth. I just mean that if suddenly the military registration and enlistment office is looking in Ukraine and I am put on the wanted list, can it be that they will be filmed at the Turkish border or not (in their database, after all, I can be as a citizen wanted by such and such a country)
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answered 5 years ago
Don't make fun of my slippers. Where is the Ukrainian draft board and where is Turkey and France. Now, if Interpol puts you on the wanted list, then yes, you can start to worry))).
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answered 5 years ago
Vika284
This example (with two passports) from life is not entirely correct. A Polish passport is a passport of a citizen of a Schengen country. At the entrance to about. Kos tourist showed both passports. Ukrainian - because this passport arrived in Turkey from Ukraine (confirmed crossing the border) ... and a passport of a citizen of the country of the Schengen zone (Poland), thereby confirming that he has the right to visit these countries. In addition, a trip from Bodrum (Turkey) to about. Kos (Greece) is rather a one-day tourist destination. There may be concessions...
Our "rabotinet111"-a citizen of the Russian Federation and a citizen of Ukraine. He needs to travel either on a Ukrainian passport (with biometrics and fingerprinting), or on a Russian passport with a Schengen visa.
This example (with two passports) from life is not entirely correct. A Polish passport is a passport of a citizen of a Schengen country. At the entrance to about. Kos tourist showed both passports. Ukrainian - because this passport arrived in Turkey from Ukraine (confirmed crossing the border) ... and a passport of a citizen of the country of the Schengen zone (Poland), thereby confirming that he has the right to visit these countries. In addition, a trip from Bodrum (Turkey) to about. Kos (Greece) is rather a one-day tourist destination. There may be concessions...
Our "rabotinet111"-a citizen of the Russian Federation and a citizen of Ukraine. He needs to travel either on a Ukrainian passport (with biometrics and fingerprinting), or on a Russian passport with a Schengen visa.
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answered 5 years ago
lazy_person this person showed only his Polish passport, the officers of the border guard did not demand more passports from him and did not ask questions
There is no need to build illusions that border service officers turn a blind eye, even minimal violations of the rules when crossing the border with Greece, even if the entry is for one day for the purpose of tourism, there are always "waiters" in the buffer zone during the season
There is no need to build illusions that border service officers turn a blind eye, even minimal violations of the rules when crossing the border with Greece, even if the entry is for one day for the purpose of tourism, there are always "waiters" in the buffer zone during the season
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answered 5 years ago
Vika284
You yourself wrote: - "when leaving Bodrum on the ferry at the border, he shows the Ukrainian foreign passport to the Turkish border guards and at the entrance to the border of the island of Kos he shows the Polish passport and everything is OK."
Here I am about the same thing... Leaving Bodrum, he confirmed that he entered Turkey legally (using a Ukrainian passport). Entering Greece, he showed that he is a Schengen citizen ...
This does not apply to "our guy" ... he is not a citizen of Shegen ...
You yourself wrote: - "when leaving Bodrum on the ferry at the border, he shows the Ukrainian foreign passport to the Turkish border guards and at the entrance to the border of the island of Kos he shows the Polish passport and everything is OK."
Here I am about the same thing... Leaving Bodrum, he confirmed that he entered Turkey legally (using a Ukrainian passport). Entering Greece, he showed that he is a Schengen citizen ...
This does not apply to "our guy" ... he is not a citizen of Shegen ...
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answered 5 years ago
You can try, but you don't have to. Do not underestimate the border guards, especially since there are a lot of such precedents in Ukraine. I spent 15 minutes at passport control in Helsinki answering the questions of the border guard, and everything is legal and I have a good tourist history.
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answered 5 years ago
The border guards are concerned about the protection of the borders of their country, and in this direction they will always ask questions. And the problems of the military registration and enlistment offices of other countries are not the concern of the French border guards.
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answered 5 years ago
If you cross the passport control of Ukraine, then you need to take into account the Law of Ukraine "By acquiring citizenship of another country, a person gets the opportunity to enjoy the rights of a citizen of the country that issued the passport on its territory. If, for example, a citizen of Ukraine who has a passport of another state is detained by the police on the territory of Ukraine, he will not be able to use the help of a consular office of another country." In other words, for Ukraine, the person involved (even having received a second passport) in any case remains a citizen of Ukraine.
ollennka, the military registration and enlistment office answered correctly, this is not Interpol
ollennka, the military registration and enlistment office answered correctly, this is not Interpol
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answered 5 years ago
The option that ollennka is pushing so hard won't work. It is clear that you can fly to Turkey with a Russian passport. And fly to France with him. There are no questions here. But at the airport in France, you will also have to show exactly the Russian passport, and without a Schengen visa, it is just a piece of paper. And it will not be possible to simply take and show the stupid French border guards the Ukrainian foreigner. Because the French border guards are not stupid. They may not give a damn about the stamps of Russia and Turkey, but they will be surprised, to put it mildly, by the absence of stamps as such. You cannot enter France if, according to your passport, you have not left anywhere at all. The first thing you will be asked is how did you leave the territory of Turkey. You will begin to babble something about another passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation. This is where your conversation with the French border guards will end. Next, a conversation will begin with the French cops. And it won't be nice. It is precisely at that moment that I advise you to remember the good advice of ollennka...
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answered 5 years ago
Alexander, you, excuse me, fantasize too much. People travel with different passports and will continue to travel, the French do not care what document a person used to leave the previous country. They only care about entering their own country.
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