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Tell me the options for an independent trip to Demre to Nicholas the Wonderworker from Side.
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Taking a day tour is very exhausting. We have an elderly person. It's four of us.
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аватар Alexandr-
It will be tiring no matter how you twist it, because it’s far away ...
аватар alex45
Look at Google maps for the route and see how long it takes.
аватар PSN_Mariupol
the only option that will be less tiring is to rent a car. the cost is about $40-60 per day and more. Plus gasoline. Gasoline they have expensive, more than $ 2 per liter.
аватар Mascot71
Try to solve the issue in a tour agency, they will probably be able to pick up a two-day individual tour with an overnight stay in Demre, but the price, I think, will be hoo. Even by yourself, on a rental car, it will take the whole day, save time only on visiting Mira-Kekovo and shops.
аватар Mascot71
Yes, I forgot to say, everyone, both the street workers and the hotel guide, will unanimously assert that it is not at all tedious: the bus is comfortable, stops every hour or two, etc. All this is true, but this will not make Demre closer to Side, and the last section of the route 30 km from Finikiye runs along a VERY winding mountain road along the sea
аватар igor1960
We traveled from Kemer and for us it was not tiring. indeed, the buses are all air-conditioned and the ride is not tiring, there were stops several times in shopping centers along the way, but everything is expensive there and they need to be used for relaxation (like a toilet, etc.) Keep in mind that the excursion is not only the church of St. Nicholas (by the way, you have to pay an additional $8 for entry in addition to what you paid at the travel agency), but also the Lycian tombs and a trip on a yacht with swimming in the sea. For you, there is an option to leave an elderly person in a hotel and go with a travel agency. But if an elderly person is a believer, there is no better emotional lift for him. The second option is to rent a car, there is only one road and you are unlikely to get lost, only in the city itself you will have to find it. Just don't take an open car - it's hot in the sun and it's cool to drive in the evening.
аватар alex45
And why look for a rental, many Turkish travel agencies are engaged in car rental.
And for the believer, I want to say that the relics of St. Nicholas are in the Orthodox church in the city of Bari, Italy (I saw them there), which they show in Turkey, I honestly don’t know. Therefore, if a person is elderly, then he will have a boat trip to Manavgat, look Side.
аватар igor1960
alex45 St. Nicholas lived and preached on the territory of modern Turkey. Therefore, it is called Myrlikian, from the words of the World and Lycia. And they buried him in this church, there was a sarcophagus in which he was buried. And the Italians stole the relics and transported them to Bari.
аватар Pachok
All right. He lived and was buried, but there are no relics there now.
My opinion is that it makes sense for an elderly person to travel so far from Side only if he is very religious. If faith is Easter cake for Easter and Pugacheva's concert for Christmas, then he will be very disappointed.
If this trip is important, maybe try to find a hotel not in Side, but somewhere beyond Kemer? Still, a little closer.
Car rental is expensive because of the petrol and someone has to work as a driver and the road there is not very easy in some parts. Perhaps it will be more comfortable on a tourist bus, just choose a tour without visiting factories and shops, they are more expensive than standard ones, in which half the time they take you to retail outlets.
аватар alex45
The TC had a question about a trip to Nicholas the Wonderworker, which is why I wrote that he is not there, if the sarcophagus is important, then it’s another matter. you also have to pay extra. Commerce, however !!!
аватар Mascot71
I was in Demre in 2006 on the square in front of the temple there was an idiotic monument to Santa Claus, arrived in 2010, the monument was demolished and a canonical monument to Nicholas the Wonderworker was erected. Pleases. Even if the entrance is 10TL, it is clear that people are ennobling the Christian shrine.
аватар igor1960
So Nicholas of Myra is the prototype of Santa Claus. No wonder the Turks revere him and call him Noel Baba. It was he who poured sweets into poor children's socks, and it was from him that Santa Claus and a slipper or a sock with sweets in America and Europe later went.
аватар igor1960
Alex45 in Turkey, the state puts everything on a commercial footing. About 5 years ago, Phaselis was easy to get into. Now they are surrounded by a fence and they charge 10 lira for the entrance. If people find something old, the state immediately buys it from them and sends it to the museum. Example. The Turks began to dig the foundation for the house and found 2 ancient Greek statues. The state built them a house for free in exchange for these statues. And I think this is right, at least look at the museums of Antalya.
аватар alex45
And what do I object? Once again, Nicholas the Wonderworker is not there, he wants to visit Demre, his right, how hard it will be for an elderly person to go, you need to know about his health.
But in Italy, they put something on commercial rails, and in some churches (almost all the existing ones) the entrance is free, they can only warn about the ban on shooting inside the temple.
аватар Mascot71
"the prototype of Santa Claus" so I say it was Nemchurovsky Klaus, and now our Nikolai the Wonderworker
аватар Pachok
And why is he "ours"? :))) He is a Greek who dedicated his life to the Abrahamic religion that arose in Palestine.
If we talk about "ours", then these are those who revered Perun, Veles, Svarog, etc. :)
And so - even though Santa Claus, even though Nicholas of Miroliki, even the Finnish Yollupukki - it's all one person, there is absolutely no difference what features are dedicated to the monument.
аватар alex45
But it is interesting that Nicholas the Wonderworker is a Christian saint and is revered by both Catholics and Orthodox, as well as Copts, Armenians, Georgians and all other branches of the Christian faith. So - "ours, not ours", this is not here.
аватар sigur62
This is surprising, but not only by Orthodox and Catholics, but also by Kalmyk Buddhists, who call him Mikola-Burkhan and consider him the patron of fishermen, and the Buryats call him the White Elder and consider him the deity of longevity and prosperity.
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