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what documents do 16 year olds need to travel to Russia
Does he have an internal passport, is it enough?
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7 subscribers  • asked 2012-11-1911 years ago
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аватар Anetka-gan
internal passport is enough if he is traveling with his parents
аватар HotLine
Yeah. Specially for childless parenting experts.
From the age of 16, a citizen of Ukraine has the right to independently cross the border.
Under an intergovernmental agreement between the Russian Federation and Ukraine, internally common civil passports are mutually recognized.
аватар sent2008
HotLine, but in more correct, less pejorative forms it is impossible to be expressed? And under than here education-not understandable!
аватар IaroslaviSHna
Yes, an internal passport is sufficient.
аватар HotLine
sent2008, you can. But I have two principles:
1. If you are already answering specific (not evaluative) questions, then you need to answer correctly. This is a great responsibility.
2. I communicate tolerantly. The person to whom ONE sentence of my post is addressed knows what it is about. Unlike me, he allowed himself frankly rude remarks addressed to me. You can see an example of communication here
http://blogs.turpravda.com/Anetka-gan/78026.html
In general, it is better to write such questions in a personal. And now it will start.
аватар Anetka-gan
ahahah my charm))) offended the boy, you told the truth!)) kindergarten, by God!))) let's also link to the forum where I'm not the only one talking nicely with you))) or you, as a moderator, deleted everything ? I don't follow your activities.
and where does the version come from that I don’t have children?)))) did you look at my passport?)))
And is it a lie about the passport ???)))
Most importantly, don't worry and don't worry!
аватар HotLine
sent2008, I hope that you now understand my form of communication. This is what I voiced in my previous post with the phrase "Otherwise it will begin." A person is not able to admit his mistake or to remain silent correctly.
Those who like to grind publicly their personal ambitions, i.e. for Anetka-gan.
I can’t give a link to the forum, because the admin rubbed your remarks there. I moderate the hotel booking thread. You wrote insulting words for you in the topic of excursions. I am a member of this thread just like you. Truth with arguments, examples and quotes. Unlike your brackets, exclamation marks and question marks.
аватар HotLine
You asked questions, I will answer them. For your children. In your review (link above) you wrote - "When I have my own children". So you decide if you have them or not. I proceeded from the fact that the review was written by you a couple of weeks ago and you do not belong to the family of short-whiskered dipterous insects.
About lies. How would you phrase it correctly. Your phrase would not be a lie if you were more laconic and wrote only the first part of it, namely, "an internal passport is enough." So you should think about whether you should be more concise. You look and the information will be correct. And because of your incompetence, parents will not have to accompany 16-year-old children when crossing the border.
Hehe.
аватар Anetka-gan
you are funny))
"Man is incapable of admitting his mistake" what mistake?
"internal passport is sufficient if he is traveling with his parents" is that not true?
"childless parenting experts." where is infa from? Is this correct communication on your part?
"For those who like to grind their personal ambitions publicly," specify by what method! not clear wording
"You wrote words offensive to you" what words did I write to offend myself? Am I a sado-masochist? Do you have documents to support this? I don't know a priori what an insult is, if so)))
let's move on)
аватар Gudik
Trolls))
аватар Anetka-gan
"Over your children." You don't have to give birth to be a mother
"Oh lies." those. if a child travels with his parents and with his internal passport, then this is a lie ??
аватар HotLine
For other participants in the conversation.
Sorry for the public graters. I am not the initiator. I just gave the correct answer with the hint that you don't need to add to the misconception if you're not competent. This is one of the most common misconceptions.
From the age of 16, a child can independently cross the border. To countries where our internal passports are recognized - by internal passport. To other countries - according to an internal passport and a children's travel document.
But there are nuances in obtaining visas and visa-free regime with Israel. But that is not the subject of this question.
аватар Anetka-gan
"I'm not the initiator."
"for childless parenting experts."
you did not confuse anything?
аватар HotLine
And what hurt you? You do not have children yet (you yourself wrote about this) and you claimed that you have an understanding of the principles of raising children.
http://blogs.turpravda.com/Anetka-gan/78026.html
So I wrote everything correctly. Without any of your "bore", "boy", "kindergarten".
Moreover, in your answer you formulated a stable delusion that constantly has to be refuted. You can live with it until your children's 16th birthday. But you don’t need to immerse other people in your mistakes. This is not good.
Tighten up and do what you wrote in the comments to your review. Namely - "if the hotline had told something new, then she would have accepted it."
Make it "WOULD". Show that you can do it. In the name of all 16 year olds.
Signature - offended 52 year old boy. Hehe.
аватар Anetka-gan
"You don't have children yet" are you sure?)) Do you know the best about my personal life? where is the proof?
"persistent delusion" what delusion??? i.e. if the child is traveling with his parents, then he does not need an internal passport ??? where is the lie?
"if the hotline had told something new, then she would have accepted it" i.e. I somewhere said that what you wrote about the passport is a lie? strain)) your own words!
"offended 52 year old boy." get better! Recognizing a problem is the first step to solving it!
аватар Anetka-gan
"i.e. I said something somewhere" i.e. I DIDN'T THIS SOMEWHERE
amendment
аватар HotLine
What an opponent, such a dispute. Have to repeat. I suggest that all other participants in the conversation unsubscribe from notifications from this thread, there will be nothing interesting anymore. Two questions will be repeated - whether the presence of parents is necessary and whether Anetka-gan has children.
So, Anetka-gan
1. You gave the wrong answer. It's a delusion. There is no need for a 16 year old person to travel with their parents. A passport is sufficient without the condition you wrote "if he is traveling with his parents".
2. So do you have children or not? I proceeded from your own phrase that they are not, but they will be. Therefore, I wrote an absolutely correct appeal "for childless experts in parenting." Write and I will accept your status. If this is a special topic for you, let me know. For example, in a personal. And I will not touch this parameter at all. I have no motivation to offend anyone. Just like I do not take offense at the actions of people who are not close to me. And I don’t take offense at stupidity at all, and for a very long time. You weren't even around then. But at your age of 29 I was already formed in this respect. Which is what I wish you.
Signature - offended 52 year old boy. Hehe.
аватар Anetka-gan
you do not repeat yourself, you beat around the bush without giving answers to my questions. that's why they repeat themselves.
1. I did not write that ONLY and EXCLUSIVELY with my parents, read my answer again. the option "without parents", I omitted it precisely because they did not make one conclusion. so tell me where is the lie? you don't confess at all. crown?)
2. Does this concern you?)) I doubt it.
please note that I did not dispute your words on the topic)) but you probably have persecution mania)
“You were not yet in the world then. But at your 29 years old,” do you believe everything that is written on the Internet? Is my avatar my real photo??
"I was already formed in this respect" in what respect??
аватар yaroshe-tatyana
Truth is born in a dispute! I finally understood my doubt that in order to move a 16-year-old teenager with an internal passport from Ukraine to Russia, parental consent is not required for his movement. Do not be offended, Anetka-gan, your postscript "... if he moves with parents ... "and gave rise to these doubts! Thank you all !!!
аватар IaroslaviSHna
Yes, such an easy question caused such a discussion. There is clearly something missing... :)
аватар Anetka-gan
yaroshe-tatyana I'm glad that I provoke people to search for the truth!)) it develops!
someone gave you a minus for this))
аватар admin
Minus put IaroslaviSHna. Leaked :-)
We all see.
For the experiment, we removed from this thread all the ratings of those who write to their loved ones and mutual ratings of opponents.
The picture has changed dramatically.
Therefore, we call.
Gentlemen, be objective, our site is not only for writers, but also for readers and seekers.
Thanks for understanding.
аватар IaroslaviSHna
admin - Sherlock Homes. It's just funny :))))
There are questions that you can discuss and learn something really interesting. And there are those where you can answer with one sentence and not start a discussion.
аватар IaroslaviSHna
Also, attract the admin, who puts the poor cons to you. :))))))
аватар HotLine
No need to simplify.
Sherlock Homes is Sherlock Homes.
Admin is admin.
IaroslaviSHna is IaroslaviSHna.
And the question in which "something is missing" for you is relevant and / and controversial for someone.
This question was followed by similar
http://www.turpravda.com/ab/gudauta/question-35456.html
http://www.turpravda.com/uc/question-35440.html
Of course, the easiest way is to surreptitiously downvote and then giggle over something for some reason due to a lack of something. And the motivation is understandable. There are people who, entering into a conversation with remarks, do not even notice that they begin to behave in exactly the same way as those already present. Why show up then?
But this, of course, is not about you. You wrote smart and competent texts here and helped the topicmaster a lot.
It's funny to me too. No "just".
аватар HotLine
Quoting your answer to a similar question from
http://www.turpravda.com/uc/question-35440.html
"Just the other day, they themselves were interested in crossing the Russian-Ukrainian border. No, in this case, permission is not required at the moment."
This is an example of your principle:
"you can answer with one sentence and not start a discussion"
Funny.
Not "in this case" and not "permission is currently not required."
This is not a temporary rule. This is a permanent norm of the Civil Code. Since I wrote:
"From the age of 16, a citizen of Ukraine has the right to independently cross the border."
аватар IaroslaviSHna
HotLine, it seems that this site is life for you and some others. You only write rudeness and cling to every little thing, and then you get offended and complain. So, I will keep silent about your shortcomings. I don't giggle here. It's funny even to my slippers from such statements. :))))
Yes, I put a minus if I think it's necessary. And what else do you put for off-topic bazaars?
This is not a temporary rule. This is a permanent norm of the Civil Code. Since I wrote:
"From the age of 16, a citizen of Ukraine has the right to independently cross the border."
"Just the other day, they themselves were interested in crossing the Russian-Ukrainian border. No, in this case, permission is not required at the moment."
Why don't you like my answer? One suggestion. The principle has been followed.
And where did you see that the temporary norm is written?
And they can make an amendment to the Civil Code. It is known what relations between countries are... Today is one thing, tomorrow it may be different. So every time before crossing the borders, you have to look to see if anything has changed.
аватар HotLine
This is what you got me. Burning with shame and humiliation, gathering all my will into a fist, I answer:
1. You wedged into the conversation with your phrase "Yes, such an easy question caused such a discussion. Something is clearly missing here ... :)" If a reasonable person considers something a bazaar, but he rushes into the same crowd with his remarks . And we'll figure it out somehow. If you had not wedged, then this branch would have closed 3 days ago. With the same results.
2. Regarding your phrase "in this case, permission is not required at the moment." This formulation of your thought means that for your statement there are restrictions on conditions ("in this case") and time ("at the moment").
In order not to mislead people, I repeat - there are no restrictions. From the age of 16, a citizen of Ukraine has the right to independently cross the border.
3. And your argument "And they can make an amendment to the Civil Code" just shows the level of discussion. We are creating the continent together with you. So, madam co-author, look in the mirror. I return half of your epithets to you.
аватар IaroslaviSHna
Your right to answer, return. Nobody cares about this but you. I don't see an answer to it either.
аватар HotLine
Those who don't care don't post here. Especially such content - "You have the right to do what you do." Amen.
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