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New virus in China. Should tourists in Hainan be afraid of it?
"As the poor man lives, then the day is small." Just gathered in China, so there is this virus. There is a lot of conflicting information on the Internet. From the introduction of a state of emergency with a complete ban on entry into the country to that all this is nothing. But we cannot understand - should we book Hainan for March or not? ((
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аватар AllOverTheWorld
is this the first virus?
how many influenzas and pneumonias did we have there?
how many billions of Chinese people are sick? Do you know how many people we have with tuberculosis in an open form? and we are ahead of the rest with this terrible disease transmitted by airborne droplets.
It is solely your choice to fly or not.
How can turmoil help you with this?
Let's gather a pharmaceutical and medical consultation? even if the Chinese themselves cannot yet determine how this virus is transmitted.
аватар camomille
it seems to have already been established that it is transmitted from person to person
get sick, die, etc. can be anywhere, both in Europe and in Asia
but, booking a tour, and then twitching because of the virus and the possibility of getting infected is a dubious pleasure
here are a couple of horror stories from China
https://twitter.com/buch1004/status/1219167549306417157?s=09
https://twitter.com/buch1004/status/1219507952069107712
but, this is mainland China, not Hainan
аватар lazy_person
China is a huge anthill. Outbreaks of the new virus were most detected in the city of Wuhan (Hubei Province, mainland), which is about 1675.4 km from Hainan Island.
In Wuhan, there are 11.08 million people ... in total, about 200 diseases (all over China, there are already cases in Beijing and Hong Kong). The virus is spreading.
Of course, catching the virus on the island (at the hotel) is extremely small, but you still have to get to the island. Usually this happens on the road (airport, train station, bus ...), where there is a congestion of people from different regions of the country.
Now many are faced with this dilemma (to go or not to go).
In the near future, prices for tours to China will go down.
Everyone is determined by himself.
аватар AllOverTheWorld
were in China during pneumonia and all sorts of flu. For a billion people, that's 'none'
I immediately remembered coxsackie and Zika, who did not become famous.
Tours will not go down, except perhaps due to a decrease in the prices of our maintenance, the share of Ukrainians in Hainan is a drop in the ocean.
аватар lazy_person
This "drop in the ocean" is now in thought: - "to go ... not to go?"
аватар lazy_person
The link does not open ... the first case of the Chinese virus was recorded in the United States
аватар camomille
To be honest, I don’t understand why book a tour to a country where the streets are disinfected and people wear masks. there are so many interesting destinations at the price of Hainan, where you can relax just as well

https://twitter.com/for_ura80/status/1219705267673354240
аватар AllOverTheWorld
camomille, in China and Japan, and without newly discovered viruses, people often wear masks
The worst thing is that there is so much noise about some ephemeral viruses, but silence about serious diseases.
аватар AllOverTheWorld
and of course, the States have already taken up the production of the latest vaccine in a short period of time for a cloud of dough, but for some reason, nothing can be invented from really threatening diseases in a couple of weeks or months.
аватар camomille
AllOverTheWorld
it is difficult to judge objectively what and how the situation is in China. it is a closed country where information is dosed out. it is possible that the situation is worse than reported officially. Asian markets have already reacted to the new virus.
I saw a map of the spread of the virus - almost the entire mainland China is covered there, including the provinces near Hainan.
but, to decide to go or not is the prerogative of every tourist. I personally have such a rest when I will think about whether I will become infected with an unknown deadly virus, and I don’t need it for nothing. and someone will go and, quite possibly, have a good rest for little money and call people like me alarmists. here to each his own...
аватар AllOverTheWorld
camomille, I would not say that China is a closed country
“covered” is what you loudly said, since December a little more than 200 people have fallen ill, and this is for billions of the population.
in 2002, during an outbreak of another coronavirus, 8,098 people fell ill with SARS, 774 died, and 4,000 died from tuberculosis last year in Ukraine alone.
Of course, to decide whether to go at such a time or not, only the vacationers themselves, I don’t understand when the responsibility is shifted to other strangers
As in spring and summer, frequent questions about coxsackie.
аватар camomille
Tuberculosis today is not an incurable fatal disease, neither is coxsackie. Therefore, the attitude towards them is more relaxed. There is also an element of suspense that reinforces the fear.
Here is what a person who lives in Singapore writes:
Everything in Singapore on alert with new virus
- All travelers from China with a temperature will be quarantined. Fortunately, the quarantine service in Singapore is good
- Hospitals put on standby for epidemic preparedness
The office whispers that the first case in Singapore. But there is nothing on the news.
аватар Avtomaxxx
There is an interesting fact with those who fell ill in other countries (and there are not many of them), all of them, without exception, visited the city of Wuhan, in which an outbreak of a new virus was detected.
аватар lazy_person
Already over 400 people...
аватар Vika284
You can go to the WHO website, in the English version there is a full report as of January 21 - Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)
More men are getting sick and dying from this virus, according to the report.
There are no confirmed cases in Singapore as of January 21
WHO recommends that no travel restrictions be applied to China or trade with China based on information currently available on this event
аватар Vika284
registered and 100% confirmed cases of Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) on 21.01 - 282 people
аватар camomille
As of 7:30 pm on Wed, 473 cases of the #coronavirus infection have been confirmed. Places including Fujian, Anhui, Macao, Liaoning, Guizhou, Hainan and Shanxi reported their first confirmed cases on Wed. #nCoV2019
https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1219960597053181952
аватар camomille
#Update: As of 9:30 pm Wednesday, 543 #coronavirus infection cases have been confirmed nationwide in China, with 17 deaths. #nCoV2019
https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1219997144993554433
аватар camomille
they write that 4 cases have been confirmed in Hainan today
аватар Vika284
camomille confirmed by whom? news on twitter or the WHO website
аватар Vika284
In China, they don’t even expose any emergencies, but in our homeland Ukraine there are emergencies for measles and circulating poliovirus
аватар Vika284
circulating polio is polio, and we definitely have emergencies, not China
аватар AllOverTheWorld
Vika284 and I about the same
there were already these viruses:
pig flu, SARS, etc.
they quickly cook up an expensive vaccine, earn a lot of dough and induce panic in the population.
although we have really terrible cases near us
that there are no vaccines for tetanus and botulism
not high-quality vaccinations, but high-quality expensive ones, and you still won’t find them.
no mono vaccinations
etc
аватар mariya.kameneva88
We are flying to Hainan on January 27. We really wanted to cancel the trip ... but, nevertheless, we are flying ... we will return, I will tell you. Mixed feelings, the mood is clearly spoiled ... I took a respirator 95 with me, we will put it on at the airport, we will try not to roam around closed crowded rooms ... and the appetite has already disappeared for all the local yummy .... But, let's enjoy nature more ... here ....
аватар Vika284
What WHO recommends for those travelers who have a route through the main focus of the city of Wuhan:
- wash your hands frequently
- do not communicate with people who are clearly ill, it does not matter if it is SARS, the usual flu or a new virus, or just a cough
- do not visit farms and avoid contact with wild animals
For everyone else traveling to different parts of China there are no recommendations
But pay attention that in connection with the Chinese New Year, the number of cases may increase in different places.
аватар Vika284
camomille what we should understand from the WHO press conference, they discussed the same report that is officially published, answered questions from journalists of "hot news" that they are studying the virus, the etiology of the virus, that they are coordinating the cooperation of all parties in the field of virus research , about the fact that the virus is transmitted from person to person, but these not only the WHO will not surprise you and we understand this, but at the same time they do not announce emergencies.
аватар Vika284
What does the BBC write about the fact that public transport will temporarily not work in the focus of infection in Wuhan, and other publications write that flights to / from Wuhan will be canceled - all this is because the Chinese New Year begins this weekend, so that those celebrating the infection do not massively spread
аватар camomille
Vika284
As far as I understand, at the press conference they said that the situation is changing rapidly and tomorrow there will be another meeting of the committee and, apparently, they can announce tomorrow whether the situation is dangerous on an international scale or not.
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