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Import to Russia of a musical instrument.
I want to buy a musical instrument (double bass, for personal use) for 2500€. How much will the tax be and what problems can arise at customs?
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аватар sigur62
There will be no problems.
If you will be transporting your double bass by train or car, then the cost of 1500 euros is not subject to customs duty, and the remaining 1000 is taxed. The way out is to pay in the store with two checks, one check for 1500 euros, and the second for 1000, show only 1500. If the customs officer doubts the cost, then there will be problems, since he can evaluate the instrument himself and impose a duty on it. Usually, twenty euros are enough to dispel his doubts.
Second exit. Fly by plane. In this case, the import of goods worth up to 10 thousand euros is allowed, and this is the best way out for you.
Yes, and in any case, the weight must be no more than 50 kg.
Happy shopping!
аватар hl_strider_
What if I take a person's hand? What check will he give me?
аватар sigur62
No. Then indicate it in the declaration as being used, worth 1500 euros. But it's better with a check. Is it possible to order through a consignment store? Usually in Europe it is very easy.
аватар hl_strider_
How and where to fill out this declaration and in what language? It's the first time I buy something in Germany.
аватар sigur62
In Russian at the entrance to the Russian Federation. Forms lie at the customs control desks.
аватар sigur62
Still, flying is better. Then you don't need any declaration and go to the "green" corridor without explaining anything to anyone.
аватар hl_strider_
And if I want to pay tax for this 1000€, then where should I pay it and how much will it cost?
аватар hl_strider_
And at the German airport they won’t say anything that I will transport the double bass in the cabin if there is a ticket for it¿
аватар hl_strider_
That is, they will let me on the plane and I will fly with a double bass to Russia without any problems?
аватар sigur62
Tomorrow I will find out the exact amount and write in a personal, OK?
Then you can decide what is more profitable for you, pay for the air ticket and excess weight, or pay honestly the customs duty.
But I won’t tell you anything about the German carrier, unfortunately. In the cabin - most likely they will not allow such huge luggage, they will force you to pack it and put it in the luggage compartment. Can you carry it in your luggage?
аватар hl_strider_
It is forbidden. What if I have a double bass ticket? The Aeroflot company has written tickets for the double bass!!! There and back by air. There won't be any problems, will there?
аватар hl_strider_
Okay, I will be very grateful to you.
аватар sigur62
In general, 30% of this thousand euros is 300 euros, or if there is an excess in weight, then 4 euros per kilogram in excess of the allowed fifty. But you won’t insist that your instrument is exactly 2500, you can insist that it’s 2000, or even 1500. Make a check with your seller in any commission, they’ll charge you fifty kopecks of euros, and that’s it. And if by plane, then, I repeat once again, you don’t need to draw up anything.
If you fly with Aeroflot and they give you a double bass ticket, then you can probably go to the salon, where you will play for the passengers at the same time)))
Lyrical digression. In our country, contraband from Finland is called "double bass", well, for small things. Therefore, when you are asked by a customs officer "What do you have there?" answer "Double bass", look at his facial expression, it will be interesting)))
аватар hl_strider_
Thanks!!
аватар hl_strider_
And if without a check, write in the declaration that it costs 1500? Is this an option? Problems may arise?
аватар sigur62
Ground transport?
Weight limit - 50 kg, and cost - 1500 euros. Try to go to the "green" corridor, where you don't have to declare goods (by the way, don't bring anything but this tool), and calmly spank. If you are stopped, say that the tool was bought from the hands and it costs 1500 euros. Should roll.
аватар hl_strider_
Just don't even fill out the declaration? Or fill and write 1500?
аватар sigur62
Don't fill out at all. Up to 1500 duty-free and without declaration. But if at least 1600, then fill it out. Decide for yourself.
аватар hl_strider_
Think it will work?
аватар sigur62
If it is just like new and it looks clearly more expensive than 1500 euros, then they can evaluate it and take a fee. In reality, they don’t get in touch with private traders, especially with nerds-musicians, they only waste time, but no income)))
After all, they have someone ... trucks there, road trains ...)))
аватар hl_strider_
That is, if I go by car, they will stop me with a double bass only at the border with Russia? Nowhere else will they find fault?
аватар sigur62
Well, not that they will stop you, but you will pass through the border control (present your passport), then through customs control (present the goods).
Have you never travelled?
аватар sigur62
In short, do not be afraid, everything will be fine.
Have a good trip!
And I went to sleep.
аватар hl_strider_
Thank you)
аватар KaterynaSH
Musical instrument in the amount of 1 pc. is included in the concept of personal belongings and is not subject to taxes upon importation. On the website of the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation in the section information for individuals there are reminders for moving across the border, depending on the type of transport, you should familiarize yourself with them.
аватар sigur62
Nothing like this. This can be done when moving back and forth, making it to the customs declaration when DEPARTURE from the Russian Federation. Then at the return ENTRY you will really prove that these are personal things.
аватар KaterynaSH
The customs legislation of the Russian Federation has two definitions "goods" and "goods for personal use". The concept of "goods" does not include goods for personal use. In addition, the law does not establish a mandatory written declaration of goods for personal use upon export. The musical instrument is not included in the list of goods that cannot be recognized as goods for personal use or in the list of goods for personal use, the export of which is carried out with the permission of other authorities. Therefore, it is almost impossible to refute the fact of the export of a musical instrument using verbal declaration.
аватар sigur62
Oh well. Try it with contrabass)))
Do not embarrass the questioner, you will do him a disservice.
аватар KaterynaSH
In principle, I suggested reading the necessary information on the website of the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation. It follows from your yesterday's correspondence that a person flies with an Aeroflot plane, so it is not at all clear what it is about, a double bass costs less than 10 thousand euros and weighs less than 50 kg, and, accordingly, is not subject to taxation. And about the tax calculations, I have big doubts. After all, we are talking about one thing. For example, when importing a car, 1,500 euros are not deducted from its value, which can be imported without taxation. So I'm going back to the beginning. To make a decision, you need to study the website of the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation, but not just read it, but thoughtfully, paying attention to the terminology and sharing certain concepts.
After all, your proposal for double invoicing is also outside the scope of the law, and, accordingly, this is also a dubious service.
аватар sigur62
It's not about that. I do not study the FCS websites, but I offer a person a practical solution to the problem, exactly the one that we often use, repeatedly and easily crossing the border. Moreover, not only the proposal to issue two checks, but also the possibility of negotiating for twenty euros in general, goes beyond the scope of the law. And this is definitely not on the FCS website)))
Whether a person flies by plane or travels by train or car is completely incomprehensible, and the person has not yet decided how he will go. If by plane, then the answer was this - nothing needs to be filled in and nothing needs to be paid.
Why would you undertake here to correct what has long been chewed and explained, it is completely incomprehensible.
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