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From Sharm to Israel How are things going with border control 2018, for Ukraine?
I read that Ukrainians have tightened control on the border with Israel and many are being returned back. This is true?
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аватар olesjo
Israel is complete insanity!
Captured the holiest places and neither a visa nor a suitcase will help?
I want - let go, I want - no ...
аватар mishatour
Why go to the "zahopniki"? Relax where all inclusive and enjoy life. As long as your compatriots violate the visa regime, everything will be so.
P.S. figure out who are the invaders and who has been living there for 3000 years. By the way ... Jesus was not an Arab and not a Ukrainian ... but one of the "invaders"
аватар olesjo
So, the Jewish faith - and places are not holy?
аватар mishatour
I showed it to the specialists and even they didn’t decipher it ... Well, I understood one word without them. Well, what can I say ... I’m proud of those who recognize such killers in the crowd ... and kick in the ass .....
аватар shok2017
mishatour, and my child has those that you are proud of, they killed the love of the holy land. Me too, by the way. I still have goosebumps, which my 5 year old child answered when he kissed the star of Bethlehem for the first time. She has been waiting for this trip for 3 months. And now she has disappointment and emptiness. So cheer on.
аватар mishatour
If you don’t explain to the child who is to blame for this, then he will grow up in the spirit .... the Jews are to blame for everything. But you don’t explain to him that the aunts and uncles who flooded Israel and do not want to leave are to blame for everything !!!! You were brought up like that .. and this bastard was brought up like that ... who speaks Ukrainian. Respect yourself...and put things in order in your house...Your countrymen turned this tour forum into a "raspberry" for illegal immigrants, your compatriots made your child disappointment and emptiness...
аватар shok2017
mishatour, HORROR. There is nothing to talk about with you!
аватар mishatour
I even know why...Because I speak a language you do not understand, it is the language of realities and facts that exist at the moment. I really hope that in search of work, Ukrainians will prefer Europe .. And people from Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova will be able to freely visit holy places. Since Poland, Italy, Uzbekistan are doing it today .... I will tell you even more ... I am interested in this.
And in your voice sounds nationalism, hatred and weakening of the whole people. That's why we have nothing to talk about.
аватар mishatour
*insult
аватар klunay1
Tell me, do I need to buy a visa upon arrival in Sharm or not?
аватар olesjo
Kent in black glasses and not seeing how he became a nationalist chauvinist.
аватар olesjo
visa is not required, you do not leave Sinai
аватар mishatour
Don't grow up to Israel! Your destiny is Sinai. Say thanks to Israel for giving it to the Egyptians... And the Kent in black glasses has a name, a surname and a phone number.... But you have one swastika... So I'll step over you... and so much honor.. .
аватар holiday5555
A very fresh epic with an excursion to Israel ... we left Sharm in the evening, satisfied that we would soon see Israel and its sights. We were collected from different hotels. There are three of us: me, my wife and son are a student. We talked on the bus with a girl from the Baltics. I asked - from Ukraine? We say yes! Get ready, he says, you will be a nightmare at the border. To be honest, if I had heard something about this earlier, I would not have taken a tour at all. And so, I think, cheap, 100 bucks per person. Rather than traveling specifically from Ukraine and spending a much larger amount, it is better to go from Egypt for a day and see everything at once. Super!!! But after hearing that, I already thought differently. But then it was only the beginning! So we arrived at customs at 00-06 Egyptian customs went through pretty quickly. But, it is worth noting that there were three more ANEXTUR buses in front of us. In total, we have 262 people (maybe 2-3 people is not exactly) This is according to our guide. It all started on the Israeli side already. At first they stood stupidly for an hour, where they glued on bags
аватар holiday5555
papers with numbers and codes. They just stood for a whole hour without moving, in storage tanks (such snakes, like at airports). Not a single person passed during this time, although before that many were allowed in. Then they began to let them in, checking their passports and comparing them with their faces, and some were sent for fingerprints to be taken, even though the passports were biometric. Well, then, they passed the bags through a long scanner, I have never seen anything like this at any airport, and .... a fun pastime began again in the drives. There was over a hundred people in line for the interview when we entered. They stood stupidly, there was even nowhere to sit ... like cattle in a stall. We waited until 5:30 when the queue came up. The girls in the "windows" were in no hurry. At first two racks worked, after three. They could not call anyone for a long time, but they could go to the toilet slowly. Well, the turn has come. The three of us were called to the three windows almost simultaneously. They asked for my last name, first name, where I work, what I do at work. how much money is in your pocket, who is traveling with me. and all...
аватар holiday5555
(continued) .... She twisted and stirred something ... she asked if her son had money, what money he was going for. where the wife works... and said to wait, but she left and asked to wait at the entrance to the office, into which she entered. Unfortunately, she did not decide anything, but simply went out and went on to "interrogate" others. When I approached her and asked what it meant and whether there would be any information about me soon, she simply replied that she did not understand any of my words .... (immediately some accent appeared, like I don’t understand you!) It was the same with my wife... And my son had a circus in general. He came up to say hello. She asked her full name later - who are you going with. He replied that with his parents ... she asked again, he answered the same way again, then again .... He replied that with dad and mom. She said that she did not understand anything and asked him to speak in English. Of course, he knew a little from the school curriculum of English and now from college and then from the university .... But I really couldn’t understand her, and in practice ..
аватар holiday5555
.... he speaks English no In short, nothing happened ... At the end, a guide appeared - Misha ... said that those who passed can go out and wait, boarding the bus, and everyone else who has passports under consideration, there is nothing to wait, just now they will take out your passports and go back to Egypt ... No one will wait for you .... As a result, 33 people from ANEXTUR returned 8 people from our bus and 2 more people from somewhere. About a third of Russian passports ... a few from Belarus and the rest are Ukrainians.
аватар olesjo
that's not how long the greeting of Kent in black glasses was delayed. They will pass Janek without hindrance.
аватар holiday5555
Conclusion: Ukrainians should not take an excursion to Israel, because maybe not everyone, but many are not allowed. Or being prepared is visas in your passport to good countries. I did not have this, since the passport is new, and all the visas remained in the old passports.
And one more thing: for lack of time, I missed a lot in my presentation. but when I put it all together, I realized that we were all simply bred for money. And everyone is tied there - that the customs, that the guides. For example: Why collect four buses for one night? Why don’t they send excursions on other days, separating people so that everyone can go through and sort out their issues during the night? Why don't they ask the right questions in interviews? For example: What countries have you visited? I would answer them that their country is not the first, but rather, just in passing ... And at my age, go or run away to a country where they shoot, where there is a different language, culture, and where I can’t take root already because I’m not young ..... But what can you prove to them? They have their own agreements there ... Let someone object to me ...
аватар holiday5555
and most importantly: if it were true that the Israeli authorities in this way suppress illegal immigration, fearing that someone might stay in the country as an illegal immigrant or a refugee, then create a law and ask them to sign some piece of paper, saying that I am I want to visit Israel for one day in order to get acquainted with the country and culture. If I run away or something else, I face such and such a fine or 10 years in prison .. And no one would run away, everyone would go home with their excursions. Everything is simple and clear. But then you would have to carry not three buses, but all four .... and this requires more guides, for them - less earnings. And so, everything is simple, the money has been paid, no one will take it back .... Yes, of course, they are so good that they will return 25-30 percent. and the rest is gone already ... And the money was earned and fewer people visited the country, which means that in the future, possible customers of the same scam ....
аватар olesjo
Ha-ha-ha in defiance of biku in black eyepieces !!!
аватар mishatour
holiday5555, conclusion of the fifth grader)
аватар holiday5555
Argument, Misha! Or I will have a suspicion that you are the very Misha-guide, and the thief of our money!!!
аватар mishatour
I stated my arguments on the first page of the discussion of this issue. Of course, you didn’t read it, not before the trip and not after .. But you could read it ... and maybe listen .. would. I understand you very well ... but you must also understand the objective .. reality. Israel cannot write laws for every ..country .., there is international ..law ... And it obliges to provide assistance to refugees or to those who call themselves that ... Really look at the situation ... it is completely ambiguous !!!
аватар allapopovaalla
Before you go on an excursion from Sharm to Israel, weigh all the REALITIES and RISKS: everything written is TRUE !!! They return, I saw many who were not missed in hotels, people of different ages, incl. and pilgrimage, different professions, villagers-urbans... The unmissable people suffered both morally and financially... That is why I don't go from Sharm to Israel to shrines, but enjoy the sea with corals and fish... P.S. And they will offer a tour, because this is a tourism business! All the right decisions! Good luck!
аватар nodarsito
From Sharm to Israel, when tourists are not allowed in, are they deported? Or just returned to the Sharma hotel without deportation?
аватар katass
Au...tourists...lovers to tickle their nerves...and ease the gamanets....you are happily awaited in the travel agencies of Sharma. And if you are * wrapped * .... then * who is your doctor * ...?
аватар nodarsito
Not who to themselves!
аватар Alias_Motto
For people who have good intentions and who consider themselves decent, I do not advise going to Israel at all, and not just from Egypt. And here's the reason: At the end of 2018, my daughter with her husband and friends decided to go to Poland to Asventim, and from there fly to Israel and look at the young country. We raised our daughter in the spirit of humanism in relation to people, that you can’t mock people and kill them simply because you don’t like them. They said that fascism is the most striking manifestation of such a misanthropic ideology on the example of the murders of Jews, and I told her about concentration camps and showed photographs of these horrors. And what was waiting for my daughter after visiting Asventim and flying from Poland to Israel? Israeli hospitality looked like this: my daughter, her husband and friends were taken away their passports and phones and told to wait. The daughter's husband said that the woman, most likely a border guard, shouted"come here" and pointed at him with her finger when they were sitting and waiting for some incomprehensible thing.
аватар Alias_Motto
As a result of long bullying, they were not allowed into Israel, they were not told the reason, and they were sent back to Poland. Although the hotel rooms were booked, return tickets were in hand, and the reason for the trip was clearly stated. After all this circus, I had a reason to suspect the Jews of fraud. And, finally, the conclusion that suggests itself: 1. In my humble opinion, since official representatives of Israel took part in the bullying of my children, I conclude that the Jews are a deceitful and rotten rabble, among which there are only a few good ones. 2. They may specifically not let good people in, because they can see the real side of God's chosen people, or (and): 3. The highest degree of unprofessionalism of border guards who do not understand people and let in those whom they cannot get rid of later.
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