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From Sharm to Israel How are things going with border control 2018, for Ukraine?
I read that Ukrainians have tightened control on the border with Israel and many are being returned back. This is true?
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аватар olesjo
once again in the face of Kent in black eyepieces ...
аватар mishatour
Alias_Motto, were you there? Or do you think ... that someone will endure the insults of your ill-mannered children ??? They grew up in boors, and came here ... to educate those who have already been brought up. Educate those who "drink" both their mother and their homeland ... And we don't need .... you have a lot of work in the house !!!
аватар mishatour
You can also go to Asventim for various reasons, judging by your attitude towards the Jews ... they went there to gawk and rejoice ... Sorry for the censorship. You are not worthy..to set foot on the ground..Israel.
аватар mishatour
olesjo, change your style .... mom, children, Asventim ... You write scripts yourself ...???) People like you in Asventim ... they took teeth from the dead ... and now to the Holy Land ... She really HOLY..
аватар olesjo
Heavenly Turk: on Auschwitz, and Auschwitz, and Auschwitz (Polish: Oświęcim,), you know the hymn ...
аватар mishatour
So I copied you .. your children were in Asventzim .. were)
аватар mishatour
It seems to have stepped on you again .... sensual ... stepped on. Forum members sorry .. I won't do it anymore ...
аватар Alias_Motto
mishatour
And I don't need to be there. I have wonderful educated children and I completely trust them, unlike you. And I would not say that you are as well-mannered as you think you are. Say that my children are rude, ill-mannered, offending someone..although the message is only my vision of the situation, and boorish in the messages-only"come here" representative of Israel and your opus, which can hardly be called a model of morality. And I also like that you think that you do not need to be educated, and you are not the one who is for "swill and mother and homeland ... You won't die of modesty). Can you tell me what specifically you don't like and why, I didn’t seem to have any questions, but now three questions appeared at once: 1. Do you consider yourself one of the majority, about whom I said that they have neither honor nor dignity, or are you still in the minority? Do you think that everything written is not true 3. Do you not like the bitter truth?
аватар Alias_Motto
mishatour, In the meantime, I'm waiting for answers to my questions, I read your comments in different topics. And, you know, some of them, which I called "grandma Arina's fairy tales," are worthy of an "Oscar"). Interestingly, many cut through their real meaning? May I translate one of them into human language? An allegory, so to speak: "I, Michael, want everyone to consider me their friend and generally a wonderful person. I spat on the back of a person who trusted me, but this is not my fault, I can be understood. This is the fault of those whom I invited to their house, and they shat on my site.
аватар mishatour
I think you are an anti-Semite!!! And yet, a few of your kind, who are given a platform here to insult the people, of which I am a part. Half a life THERE answered your questions, and HERE - you will have to apologize to the Jews. And I'll think about whether to pay attention to you later, or just say-"Pshol out ".
So it turns out that there are no more representatives of Israel on the forum, and those that do not consider it appropriate to respond to insults. They may be afraid for their name. The guide must be well-mannered and not respond to rudeness. I am sure that many do not like my statements and opinions. But I will answer to everyone who took it into service - personal, turn it into an insult to an entire people. Even if I get blacklisted by some members of the forum.
I came here not to advertise myself, but to tell tourists about the country in which I live, and, if possible, answer questions of a tourist nature. You and others like you have ruined everything and everyone with your questions. Some are looking for fellow travelers, while others were not allowed into Israel...
аватар Alias_Motto
mishatour
You didn't answer my questions, Michael! You can say whatever you want, I can't shut your mouth. And I was not rude to you at all, you are slandering my children that they insulted you, they are ill-mannered and the like. Where did you get it from? Do you have a court decision, even yours? But when it will be (probably never), then you will teach the life of me, my children and my friends, and listen to what I say and accept: I do not think that I am an anti-Semite. I really respected the Jews, trusted them and supported them until the incident, when they wiped their feet about my children. After all, you are unlikely to go to visit a person you do not trust, right? They can put on a chain. And now I believe that you have betrayed the trust of the people, Mikhail, and for this you need to be held accountable. And don't complicate an already difficult situation. I understand that you yourself ranked yourself among those whom I consider traitors and I know for sure that this will not end in anything good for you. Don't take it personally, it's just my opinion.
аватар Alex2019
And what to do with the aunts and uncles who seized our power (Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk, Groysman, Tymoshenko), brought the country to poverty, and do not want to leave?
аватар Alex2019
Michael, I'll go to Poland, earn money for a ticket, and come to Israel to work, and you won't do anything to me, but thank Petka Porokha for this
аватар ollennka
Alex2019, how old are you? If more than 18, then which uncles and aunts are to blame for you? Take responsibility for your life already, instead of insulting public officials. Poroshenko came to power quite legally, and now you can easily go to Poland, thanks to the current president, too.
аватар Alex2019
I wrote which ones are to blame, and in wartime they are even more to blame, and I went to Poland to the point of gunpowder, because in Ukraine there are no normal living conditions, to buy a car I have to pay 4 times more than in Europe, salaries of 300 $, utility bills of $ 200, I hope they no longer choose a Jew in the elections
аватар ollennka
There was no visa-free regime with the EU, now there is.
аватар Alex2019
I have a Schengen visa up to 20 years, so I don't care, I didn't even get a new passport
аватар Alex2019
So what did the visa-free regime do, now it means you can steal billions of dollars from the budget and withdraw it offshore? Please take off your rose-colored glasses and look at things realistically
аватар ollennka
Oh, times change, people don't. You are like my grandmother, who also said: "damned crap, plundered the country".))))
аватар Alex2019
Yes, everyone knows that he has offshore accounts in Panama, and here is your grandmother
аватар Alex2019
How did he become a billionaire in one year of presidency, earned money on candy? Do not make me laugh
аватар Stanislav_5
Zadolbali ros-bots answer the question about the passage of Ukrainians to Israel.
аватар mishatour
Alex2019, come and earn. If you are talking about me, then to your health ... Everyone who contacted me in a personal received my recommendations. I stand on this sinful earth with two legs). This interferes with your compatriots, who blame it not on you, but on US). In EVERYONE coming from Ukraine, Georgia, etc., the Israeli authorities see a potential illegal immigrant. Your task is to convince them of this. This is an objective reality. This gray business is put on stream and "enterprising" gentlemen cut coupons for you. But you still break into this expensive hot country.
There is no "YOU" in Hebrew, only YOU. Those who work there do not know Russian well. Ignore their speech. This is the eastern mentality and nothing personal. Accept the rules of the game, swim with them along their course, and you will be thrown onto the shores of the Mediterranean Sea. One of your rudeness, a smile, will bring you back. This is Israel - a country hospitable to friends, but merciless to those who hide the true purpose of their visit.
аватар Alias_Motto
mishatour
Second Oscar nomination: "Israel is a country hospitable to friends, EVERYONE sees an illegal alien.")
аватар mishatour
Your talent is disappearing, I think Solovyova and Sheinina are just relaxing, although they are great specialists in distorting .. and taking them out of context .. They even get paid, but you ??? Your children ... this is your upbringing, and they behaved as you raised them ... Not suddenly ... you didn’t like the Jews ... you never liked them and you didn’t instill respect for others and, first of all, for yourself .
аватар Alias_Motto
mishatour
You are unfair to me, Michael. I didn't take anything out of context or distort anything. I think that logic simply let you down when the main task, instead of telling the truth, you tried to put more pathos into the message. I usually do not explain simple things, but in your opinion it turns out that those whom you invite, and you invite everyone, have not yet become your friends until they got to passport control, perhaps to an Israeli prison, and possibly into slavery.
аватар Stanislav_5
"EVERYONE coming from Ukraine, Georgia, etc., the Israeli authorities see a potential illegal immigrant"
There is a simple solution to COMPLETELY ban the entry of citizens of these countries and there will be no problem: "let them in - they didn't let them in", they also cancel visas - do not issue them.
аватар olesjo_mail.ru
That is the right thing to do, the same Ukrainian or Georgian will pass control without any problems if he comes from the European Union. And go from your homeland, or Egypt - to the snake, interrogation, humiliation, bullying and even prison ...
аватар linsrvc
I wondered how to get on an excursion from Egypt to Israel now ... I found communication ... Mikhail, as a boss, (who, as I understand it, is not quite a native yet) writes really chauvinistic opuses, but for some reason accuses of fascism of a person who did not give a single reason for it ... yes, the country of Israel would rejoice that it would still receive hard-working and skillful hands growing from the right place (unlike the hands of quite a few inhabitants of this country) ... the question is that on the territory of Israel there are, uh ... things, let's say, WORLD possession, and not one single (recently relatively) country. It seems like people should develop for the better, not for enmity. Can you imagine the situation when the Italians stopped letting the former residents of the CIS out of fear that they would stay there? It's hard to imagine this. This time. The second is from personal experience. The first time I was in Israel was either in 2007 or in 2008. From Egypt. We crowded for quite a long time at the border, but tolerable (the conditions are domestic, as in a scoop,
аватар linsrvc
and, as for the last visit - January 2018, nothing has changed for the better). The excursion itself is so-so .... everything is a mess. The guide, a former Muscovite, was not particularly pleased with anything and did not intervene at historical moments, but he led me to the souvenir shop regularly. I remember that the name was Benjamin, but he insisted on Benjamin. The second time was great - we flew specifically for an excursion to the country, an individual tour, a meeting - great, "Ben Gurion" - super, a transfer, a hotel in a great location (new, and some positions were also being completed). What surprised me...the excursion to Bethlehem was ordered not from a tour operator (there it was unrealistic to contact a representative about the tour, it was a total misunderstanding, not a guide), they were ordered from "street " - laying out booklets at the reception.
As a result, we drove from the gate of an almost neighboring hotel, with the British, in a small bus with excellent conditions, pers. 15-16 max. The guide spoke more slowly so that we, two people from Kiev, could understand.
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