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From Sharm to Israel How are things going with border control 2018, for Ukraine?
I read that Ukrainians have tightened control on the border with Israel and many are being returned back. This is true?
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For those who think soberly .... http://www.newsru.co.il/israel/24jan2019/sahnin_008.html
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Like Ukrainians are crying in vain, twelve percent of deportations is garbage compared to thirty percent of Moldova?)))
There are practically no Moldovans on TurPravda, therefore, apparently, they don’t cry ...
There are practically no Moldovans on TurPravda, therefore, apparently, they don’t cry ...
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:) the newspaper looks a lot like "tiparashatudey". I didn’t quite understand - if a football club invited athletes, then WHAT kind of filkin’s letter was it instead of an invitation? if, after studying it, the border guards also began to clarify with the arrivals the purpose of the visit? (I strongly doubt that the knowledge of the English language among the players was enough to understand the border guard - I am almost sure that the border guard knows 2-3 languages, except for his native one). If I had clearly stated the purpose of the visit, for example, to the States, then they only asked me - how long do I plan (within the law) to stay in the country? And then the deputy asked (moreover, a clarification - a r a b c k and y) ..... and yet - well, I don’t believe it - this is purely a commitment to logical conclusions - that there are so few Russians, with their undoubtedly larger number, physically in comparison with the same Moldova. Offhand I poked buttons and found: http://mnenia.zahav.ru/Articles/10198/repatrianti_iz_israel here it’s definitely clear that I’m not far from the truth, plus interesting info
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about how many Israelis are leaving for more developed countries. Interestingly, on the borders of THAT countries they are just as fooled as the former "scoops"? In general, the information turned out to be not completely trash, albeit unpleasant - while I was looking at the articles, I went to the blog of a certain Muscovite Tulin, he wrote about the myths of Israel ... wow, a person managed to poop on Israel, Palestine, Ukraine, Ichkeria, on a pack religions, but to lick your beloved president and Solovyov's show ... yeah .. it's impossible to understand, such a g ....
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In the last two posts some kind of porridge. And the link to the article is irrelevant - it is about those who voluntarily leave Israel, and not about the deported. Not everyone is given the opportunity to adapt abroad, many people feel like “strangers among their own” all their lives, and therefore return.
In general, labor migration is a blessing, I don’t understand why Israel is so opposed to it.
In general, labor migration is a blessing, I don’t understand why Israel is so opposed to it.
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yes, perhaps, I was distracted while writing the last two posts ... it turned out chaotically. I was just trying to explain that there could not be fewer people remaining from Russia than from Moldova. Purely arithmetic. And I came across just the information about the remaining and returning. And at the same time, on the information that the Israelis, too, with great pleasure, leave for where they feel better than at home and they are not torpedoed at the border the way they do in Israel. And they leave - as a rule - to the States, Great Britain (Turkmenistan and Saudi Arabia do not interest them - this is me to our conversation about "sane visas of sane countries"). And my opinion is also the same - labor migration is normal .... If you compare how many illegal immigrants there are in the United States, then the Israeli problem in this regard is, well, completely insignificant. And ter. acts among Americans are not uncommon ...
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In absolute terms, there are naturally more deported Russians than Moldovans. And there are more Ukrainians than Russians. But it is more useful to look at the percentage rather than the absolute number of deportees.
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If you are lucky in life, then you should go to Israel from Sharm)))
My husband and I were not allowed. And almost all of our bus. We arrived first at the border. Waited for an additional interview for 5 hours. During this time, three of all those who were waiting were called ... Then, when people got to the bus, they took out their passports and sent them back. 50 USD-Egyptian transfer (round trip for one person). 70 returned. Why didn't you like it... Mystery.
In the five hours that we were sitting... We let all the Russians, Kazakhs, Belarusians through.
Ukrainians included families with children and elderly couples.
They check the phone, count money, are interested in work. All those who did not pass were young couples, without children. Or lonely, who left their children, wives at home or in a hotel due to a tiresome event.
What could not please us personally, my husband is unshaven, I do not work (on maternity leave). The children were left with their grandmother (I think that they would not be interested). The latest statistics ... Out of 3-4 buses arriving, one leaves back ((( No explanation.
My husband and I were not allowed. And almost all of our bus. We arrived first at the border. Waited for an additional interview for 5 hours. During this time, three of all those who were waiting were called ... Then, when people got to the bus, they took out their passports and sent them back. 50 USD-Egyptian transfer (round trip for one person). 70 returned. Why didn't you like it... Mystery.
In the five hours that we were sitting... We let all the Russians, Kazakhs, Belarusians through.
Ukrainians included families with children and elderly couples.
They check the phone, count money, are interested in work. All those who did not pass were young couples, without children. Or lonely, who left their children, wives at home or in a hotel due to a tiresome event.
What could not please us personally, my husband is unshaven, I do not work (on maternity leave). The children were left with their grandmother (I think that they would not be interested). The latest statistics ... Out of 3-4 buses arriving, one leaves back ((( No explanation.
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answered 5 years ago
was recently, exactly half of the people were returned back, while the money can be returned, but not more than $ 20.
I categorically do not recommend traveling with children, as well as "respectable people" accustomed to comfort.
You will be standing in line like a redneck for 6 hours, there is nowhere to sit. Interview every 20 minutes. A very unpleasant Jewess silently studied only about 10 minutes of my phone and reacted to all my questions with some kind of hostility.
For a number of reasons, I recommend taking the tour at the hotel with a guide. Please bring your voucher, towel, soap and water.
The road is tiring. If I was now offered to go again and even given money, I would definitely refuse. From each group of tourists, on average, 1-3 people do not return.
I categorically do not recommend traveling with children, as well as "respectable people" accustomed to comfort.
You will be standing in line like a redneck for 6 hours, there is nowhere to sit. Interview every 20 minutes. A very unpleasant Jewess silently studied only about 10 minutes of my phone and reacted to all my questions with some kind of hostility.
For a number of reasons, I recommend taking the tour at the hotel with a guide. Please bring your voucher, towel, soap and water.
The road is tiring. If I was now offered to go again and even given money, I would definitely refuse. From each group of tourists, on average, 1-3 people do not return.
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answered 5 years ago
What do you mean they don't come back? Disappear from excursions and stay in Israel?
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Do you know the latest news - 140 passengers from Kyiv were detained in Ben-Gurion without any explanation for a quarter of a day, as a sign of revenge for 20 motivationally certified Jews ?!
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... forced to watch this thread from time to time .... people, aren't you tired of kneading shit in a mortar ...?
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katass, why are you suffering? Unsubscribe from the answers (asterisk in question). But I'm not tired)))), I will continue to knead.
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After the refusal to enter Israel, before flying back to Poland, my children were given tickets, and after that, 45 thousand rubles disappeared from the card with which they had previously paid for tickets to Israel. The phone of the cardholder was taken away by representatives of Israel before that and he was in their hands for quite a long time even after the phones were returned to the rest. But what a surprise it was when after that they tried to shoot another 90. Here are the appetites). Of course, after all these incomprehensible operations, the card was blocked. And now the surprise!!! After an investigation by several instances, including the bank and the airline, where applications were written and some interesting facts were reported about the location of the phones and their owners at the time of the “ticket order” and the loss of money, the entire amount was returned. By adding two plus two, helpers in the purchase of return tickets were identified, and disgust was added to my feelings towards most Israeli Jews.
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I was in Israel in the summer of 2018 and 10 years ago, this is heaven and earth, what kind of sea was before and what is now. earlier, there was salt on the banks and as much healing mud as you want, now they have all scooped out, there is ordinary sand. The air temperature is unbearable for people with heart problems, in no case I advise you not to go in the summer!!! Minus, we were traveling with a family - husband, wife, son and grandmother. They let everyone in except for my grandmother ... and the elderly woman returned alone on a tiny bus, which raced at such a speed that my mother couldn’t sleep after it for two days .. we got the money, then you can deliver it back somehow .. the money was returned 100 percent with kipish and the sediment remained unpleasant for several days ahead! Another of the minuses is a bus with a workload of 70 percent Poles and 30 percent Ukrainians, Russians. There were two excursions on the bus - in Russian and Polish. Exk. in Polish did not want to strain, and the Russian-speaking guide is a master of his craft! What a clearing all the way scandal or and mats bent, terribly
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I was in Sharm in May 2019. I went to Israel through Pegasus. Although I arrived alone without a travel agency. I bought a ticket from Moscow through
Istanbul and the hotel. in short, on your own. 3 buses were taken to Israel at 12 noon. At 3.30 somewhere in Taba. The border was passed in 30 minutes. Both Arab and Jewish. They didn’t let 2 people out of our bus. they say.the couple.didn’t have hotel vouchers with them.although the guides warned me - take.I’m 59
was alone. where do you work. what are you carrying.
sk.money.why are you going. what did he do in Indonesia (Bali). where is the wife, etc.
good in english fumbling. and that's it. back
at 12 midnight flew 2 borders in 10 minutes.
there were Russians on the bus. I don’t know about crests. They yelled at the hotel glory to ukraine
and were glad that they themselves chose a clown for president. Something like that. And
in Israel it's cool with bubbles of course.
Istanbul and the hotel. in short, on your own. 3 buses were taken to Israel at 12 noon. At 3.30 somewhere in Taba. The border was passed in 30 minutes. Both Arab and Jewish. They didn’t let 2 people out of our bus. they say.the couple.didn’t have hotel vouchers with them.although the guides warned me - take.I’m 59
was alone. where do you work. what are you carrying.
sk.money.why are you going. what did he do in Indonesia (Bali). where is the wife, etc.
good in english fumbling. and that's it. back
at 12 midnight flew 2 borders in 10 minutes.
there were Russians on the bus. I don’t know about crests. They yelled at the hotel glory to ukraine
and were glad that they themselves chose a clown for president. Something like that. And
in Israel it's cool with bubbles of course.
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I was in Sharm in May 2019. I went to Israel through Pegasus. Although I arrived alone without a travel agency. I bought a ticket from Moscow through
Istanbul and the hotel. in short, on your own. 3 buses were taken to Israel at 12 noon. At 3.30 somewhere in Taba. The border was passed in 30 minutes. Both Arab and Jewish. They didn’t let 2 people out of our bus. they say.the couple.didn’t have hotel vouchers with them.although the guides warned me - take.I’m 59
was alone. where do you work. what are you carrying.
sk.money.why are you going. what did he do in Indonesia (Bali). where is the wife, etc.
good in english fumbling. and that's it. back
at 12 midnight flew 2 borders in 10 minutes.
there were Russians on the bus. I don’t know about crests. They yelled at the hotel glory to ukraine
and were glad that they themselves chose a clown for president. Something like that. And
in Israel it's cool with bubbles of course.
Istanbul and the hotel. in short, on your own. 3 buses were taken to Israel at 12 noon. At 3.30 somewhere in Taba. The border was passed in 30 minutes. Both Arab and Jewish. They didn’t let 2 people out of our bus. they say.the couple.didn’t have hotel vouchers with them.although the guides warned me - take.I’m 59
was alone. where do you work. what are you carrying.
sk.money.why are you going. what did he do in Indonesia (Bali). where is the wife, etc.
good in english fumbling. and that's it. back
at 12 midnight flew 2 borders in 10 minutes.
there were Russians on the bus. I don’t know about crests. They yelled at the hotel glory to ukraine
and were glad that they themselves chose a clown for president. Something like that. And
in Israel it's cool with bubbles of course.
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A question for Mikhail... Just returned from the border with Israel. From our bus from the Join Up company, 6 people were not allowed in, all young couples from 25 to 40 years old. With the documents in full order, the purpose of the visit is clear as broad daylight, things with you - water, a towel and a bathrobe for swimming in the Jordan (although the bags were not even examined). So what's the reason??? To be honest, it's a shame... I really wanted to touch the history, the holy places, but what happened was somehow vile and insulting. There is no more desire to visit Israel ... I have run all over Europe, there is no such attitude towards tourists anywhere !!! Shameful and humiliating. And "digging" in the phone is generally nonsense, not a single normal country allows itself this. In short, we were offended by Israel ...
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"from the border")))
gaagarin, why do you cycle like this on this Israel? There are a lot of other countries in the world, and in Jordan you can swim in neighboring Jordan. Taking offense at border guards is a destructive and useless occupation.
gaagarin, why do you cycle like this on this Israel? There are a lot of other countries in the world, and in Jordan you can swim in neighboring Jordan. Taking offense at border guards is a destructive and useless occupation.
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gagarin, I will answer. I won't say anything new though. You read the forum, the questions asked by "tourists" and get an answer. For many years there have been no tourist issues, but only how to enter .. or insults .. they didn’t let them in. And Europe is not an indicator here. Europe today is a passage yard .... Try to enter the USA, Canada ... there, not only on the phone ... but also ..... they will climb in. Life forces Israel to respond by not quite popular methods to the flow of illegal emigration.
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I will answer in order. Korvitblag, not all Muscovites were allowed either ... Belarusians and Moldovans go without problems.
Ollennka, what's funny in "from the border "? If I wrote something wrong, it is only because my native language is Ukrainian, Russian is purely self-education, including grammar ...
And Michael. Somewhere I understand border guards. I'm with a girl, without children, with different surnames ... BUT, in fact, it's a pity that we really went 100% for sightseeing. Having my business in Ukraine, I do not need Israel ... But just "muddy" personalities, and I'm sure that of the three hundred tourists who still passed the face control, a dozen never returned ...)) I asked guide in the morning, from 120 from Join Up four "behind the bus" ...) I'm fine. A purely subjective opinion of a sleepy border guard is nonsense. Here we need to learn from Europe.
Yes, there are absolutely no problems with entry, but if you are caught in an illegal job, deportation to the EU for three years and a fine of € 5,000 to the employer for each gaster.
Ollennka, what's funny in "from the border "? If I wrote something wrong, it is only because my native language is Ukrainian, Russian is purely self-education, including grammar ...
And Michael. Somewhere I understand border guards. I'm with a girl, without children, with different surnames ... BUT, in fact, it's a pity that we really went 100% for sightseeing. Having my business in Ukraine, I do not need Israel ... But just "muddy" personalities, and I'm sure that of the three hundred tourists who still passed the face control, a dozen never returned ...)) I asked guide in the morning, from 120 from Join Up four "behind the bus" ...) I'm fine. A purely subjective opinion of a sleepy border guard is nonsense. Here we need to learn from Europe.
Yes, there are absolutely no problems with entry, but if you are caught in an illegal job, deportation to the EU for three years and a fine of € 5,000 to the employer for each gaster.
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gaagarin, and what, because you are a foreigner, the combination "from the border" becomes less funny?))
Stop being offended by the border guards, take care of your nerves, there are so many countries in the world that are much more interesting than Israel. The light did not converge on him like a wedge. Spit and grind.
Stop being offended by the border guards, take care of your nerves, there are so many countries in the world that are much more interesting than Israel. The light did not converge on him like a wedge. Spit and grind.
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Ollennka, yes)) Israel attracts me only with Holy places, because. I am a believer... And that's all. There is nothing more for me to see there ... The same Egypt is no less interesting in terms of history.
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Today 3 people, my relative, were not allowed on the border, the purpose of the trip was purely pilgrimage, but they were not allowed on the border, they banned entry for 5 years without explaining the reason. I am writing for those who want to go through Sharm, think and weigh all the "For" and "Against".
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