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Is it true that Join Up reschedule flights several times?
Hello) We have already decided on the hotel) but then we found out that the tour operator Join Up. Who recently flew somewhere with them, is it true that flights are postponed several times?
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Recently there was a thread discussing this topic ..... If the air carrier is bravo, then ..... then you can’t fly anywhere at all, you can sit for a couple of hours or days (it’s as lucky) at the airport. Anything is possible... I wouldn't buy anything from them now.
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answered 6 years ago
If you want problems, fly with them. Flights are postponed endlessly, a day will definitely be stolen from you, if you don’t spend a day at the airport, then two
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answered 6 years ago
instead of sky-up, their pocket office, they assembled three flights into one, moved them from evening to morning, then marinated in the waiting room for three hours and gave us an ancient Egyptian airlines airbus. I will never go anywhere with them again.
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answered 6 years ago
take this hotel from another MOT. I did this in April and did not lose, I flew perfectly with the teztour. No delays.
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answered 6 years ago
You should not go by this operator, we have to fly to rest on 10.07 from Zaporozhye at 13.40 as a result, the flight has already been rescheduled 5 times!!! better anex fly
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answered 6 years ago
Join UP is a travel company, TO. Flights are carried out by airlines (air carriers), with which TO enters into contracts for the transportation of its tourists who have bought a tour from it. The problems of TO "Join UP" can be very different .. for various reasons. One thing is visible - "Join UP" is in crisis this season..
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answered 6 years ago
I will continue Anex and Teztour, as well as Join up, these are not airlines, these are tour operators
Anex has Azur air and they also have serious flight time delays
Teztour has air from windrose this year
Join up offers a choice of air your sky up or regular flights to choose from Pegasus airlines and Turkish airlines, the only question is the price
Anex has Azur air and they also have serious flight time delays
Teztour has air from windrose this year
Join up offers a choice of air your sky up or regular flights to choose from Pegasus airlines and Turkish airlines, the only question is the price
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answered 6 years ago
Cheap fish is a bad fish. When booking, pay attention to the air carrier. So far, I prefer charters (in descending order) UIA, WindRose, Azur.
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answered 6 years ago
Has the world come together like a wedge on JoinUp? Are you looking for adventure, extreme or relaxation?
Now many tour aggregators do not even show offers from JoinUp. They, by and large, do not care whose tours to sell
Now many tour aggregators do not even show offers from JoinUp. They, by and large, do not care whose tours to sell
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answered 6 years ago
For example, a hotel for the dates 28.08-3.09.2018 for 7 nights for 2
BODRUM BAY RESORT 5 * Tez (air windrose) -1414$ Join up (air SkyUp) - 1391$ - difference 23$
PAPILLON ZEUGMA RELAXURY HOTEL 5 * Tezes -2296$ Join up - 2260$ difference 36$
Even if the difference is $100 this season, it’s better to overpay Tez, Coral, TUI and Anex with a stretch than sit at the airport and wait for a flight from 8 hours to 48 hours
BODRUM BAY RESORT 5 * Tez (air windrose) -1414$ Join up (air SkyUp) - 1391$ - difference 23$
PAPILLON ZEUGMA RELAXURY HOTEL 5 * Tezes -2296$ Join up - 2260$ difference 36$
Even if the difference is $100 this season, it’s better to overpay Tez, Coral, TUI and Anex with a stretch than sit at the airport and wait for a flight from 8 hours to 48 hours
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answered 6 years ago
Now the question is already standing like this: "If only I flew out at all ..."
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answered 6 years ago
NatashaS will add to your news from the official page of Boryspil airport on facebook today
"In the morning in " Boryspil "having made a forced landing flight " Airport "Kyiv " (IEV) - Antalya (AYT) "airline " Anda Air ".
The crew made the appropriate decision in the sky over Odessa. "
Anda Air also cooperates with Join up on the air, and the Join up website also has information on this flight and on the Antalya-Kyiv flight, which was delayed from July 11 from 2:00 am to July 11 at approximately 5:30 p.m.
If even the air in the sky up tour then Join up if there are not enough boards in their home airline they can provide a board from Bravo or Anda or YanAir
"In the morning in " Boryspil "having made a forced landing flight " Airport "Kyiv " (IEV) - Antalya (AYT) "airline " Anda Air ".
The crew made the appropriate decision in the sky over Odessa. "
Anda Air also cooperates with Join up on the air, and the Join up website also has information on this flight and on the Antalya-Kyiv flight, which was delayed from July 11 from 2:00 am to July 11 at approximately 5:30 p.m.
If even the air in the sky up tour then Join up if there are not enough boards in their home airline they can provide a board from Bravo or Anda or YanAir
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answered 6 years ago
To the news about 170 tourists at the Antalia airport - "boarding documents for a SkyUp flight, but then changed to Anda Air"
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answered 6 years ago
The question of whether they are transferring, true or not, go to the airport website and look at the online scoreboard, there are always up-to-date departures and arrivals.
Regarding Joint, their flight program was shot down, then the board was damaged in Zhuliany, then the bird was in the engine .. as a result, one board was idle for 2 or 3 days in Zhuliany. And this is not only a problem for Joins, just a hype over them.
If you want to minimize flight delays, book with TOs that buy seats from UIA and Rosa Vetrov. Although there are delays there, no one is immune from this. They can change a / c from any to any, believe me.
Regarding Joint, their flight program was shot down, then the board was damaged in Zhuliany, then the bird was in the engine .. as a result, one board was idle for 2 or 3 days in Zhuliany. And this is not only a problem for Joins, just a hype over them.
If you want to minimize flight delays, book with TOs that buy seats from UIA and Rosa Vetrov. Although there are delays there, no one is immune from this. They can change a / c from any to any, believe me.
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answered 6 years ago
Allow me to add your question to the discussion.
And how can Join Up or any other operator influence changes in flights and schedules of an air carrier?
Join Up cannot force the plane to fly or not to fly. I always thought that a ticket is booked through TO, but when the plane flies, the airline decides. And about the transfer / cancellation of the flight - this is not a claim to MOT.
And how can Join Up or any other operator influence changes in flights and schedules of an air carrier?
Join Up cannot force the plane to fly or not to fly. I always thought that a ticket is booked through TO, but when the plane flies, the airline decides. And about the transfer / cancellation of the flight - this is not a claim to MOT.
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answered 6 years ago
bondarkrivoruchk ,
Claims from a tourist should just go to the TO. Since TO is responsible for the package tour, incl. flight. There is no tourist-airline relationship, there is a tourist-TO relationship. But then TO - the airline. In general, according to the normal system, TO is responsible to the tourist, and then he deals with his partners, that is, a / c.
It's like you buy a product, the store promises you a complex of work, including delivery in 2 days. And on the third day you call, let’s say, to New Post and start shouting to them, why hasn’t the Lviv-Kherson car arrived yet? I am not interested in your breakdowns, but the online store is great, they cannot make the car go or not go, there are no complaints against them. So what?
Or, for example, you paid for the tour, TO pays the hotel, but suppose the host bank did not make the payment, they have such a hitch ... You will beat your chest and scream that everything is paid for at the hotel, or you will start to deal with TO ? According to your logic, the hotel or the bank is to blame, or someone else, but not THEN, since Join Up cannot force the bank to make a payment or not to make ...
Claims from a tourist should just go to the TO. Since TO is responsible for the package tour, incl. flight. There is no tourist-airline relationship, there is a tourist-TO relationship. But then TO - the airline. In general, according to the normal system, TO is responsible to the tourist, and then he deals with his partners, that is, a / c.
It's like you buy a product, the store promises you a complex of work, including delivery in 2 days. And on the third day you call, let’s say, to New Post and start shouting to them, why hasn’t the Lviv-Kherson car arrived yet? I am not interested in your breakdowns, but the online store is great, they cannot make the car go or not go, there are no complaints against them. So what?
Or, for example, you paid for the tour, TO pays the hotel, but suppose the host bank did not make the payment, they have such a hitch ... You will beat your chest and scream that everything is paid for at the hotel, or you will start to deal with TO ? According to your logic, the hotel or the bank is to blame, or someone else, but not THEN, since Join Up cannot force the bank to make a payment or not to make ...
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answered 6 years ago
Responsible is the one to whom it was paid, the one with whom you have an agreement on hand. Not contractors. There is a Customer, there is a Contractor, third parties and contractors do not answer directly to the Customer on behalf of the Contractor.
I hope you understood me correctly. You just need to understand whose responsibility it is, but at the same time you need to understand that it does not always depend on who you would like
I hope you understood me correctly. You just need to understand whose responsibility it is, but at the same time you need to understand that it does not always depend on who you would like
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answered 6 years ago
bondarkrivoruchk, well, how can I tell you. The air carrier has a rating, there is a fleet of aircraft with a known age, and so on. TO chooses an airline with which to conclude an agreement and naturally studies all the information and makes a decision. As for Join Up, Skype is their air carrier, they are one office. In addition, contracts are concluded with other air carriers, if necessary ... Also, TO is interested in the quality of services provided ..... But apparently the money issue is more important than families sitting at airports and waiting for departure.
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answered 6 years ago
Excerpt from a standard TO agreement Join up with any travel agent
"In relation to the organization and conduct of Tours, the Seller (join up) is not liable to the Customer (travel agent) and third parties (we are tourists):
• for the delay in the departure of an aircraft or the departure of a train, changes in the schedule of air travel, train traffic, bus and other traffic, and related changes in the volume and timing of tourist services. In this case, carriers are liable to the Customer and third parties in accordance with Ukrainian and international rules."
"In relation to the organization and conduct of Tours, the Seller (join up) is not liable to the Customer (travel agent) and third parties (we are tourists):
• for the delay in the departure of an aircraft or the departure of a train, changes in the schedule of air travel, train traffic, bus and other traffic, and related changes in the volume and timing of tourist services. In this case, carriers are liable to the Customer and third parties in accordance with Ukrainian and international rules."
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answered 6 years ago
Thanks to everyone who replied for the clarification. Now it's broken)))
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answered 6 years ago
By the way, here is another argument in support of TO: in the spring we bought a tour and booked a ticket for UIA. Before departure, UIA cancels the flight and changes it to Bravo. On the flight back, tickets for Bravo also come. Before leaving, Bravo changes to Yang air. And what do you tell poor Joint Up to do in this case, when every air carrier stirs up whatever he wants? Look for the fourth, fifth? Where can you find a conscientious one if the market for aviation services is limited? And why the hell have almost all the major airlines been postponing/cancelling flights lately, why are you sitting and thinking: will you fly or not fly?
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answered 6 years ago
bondarkrivoruchk
Well, how do we know who changes? Here you write: - "Before departure, UIA cancels the flight and changes it to Bravo. ... back Bravo changes to Jan air." If TO, roughly speaking, "bought a flight" UIA, then UIA will fly. But, if the money did not arrive on time, then the flight is canceled. TO is looking for a new carrier, cheaper...
I think that this confusion (with carriers) is just on the conscience of TO. Those who work in this field know this...
Well, how do we know who changes? Here you write: - "Before departure, UIA cancels the flight and changes it to Bravo. ... back Bravo changes to Jan air." If TO, roughly speaking, "bought a flight" UIA, then UIA will fly. But, if the money did not arrive on time, then the flight is canceled. TO is looking for a new carrier, cheaper...
I think that this confusion (with carriers) is just on the conscience of TO. Those who work in this field know this...
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answered 6 years ago
Don't rest with join up . Not only are flights delayed. Also terrible guides. We were in Egypt this year. They don't know anything. Hama. They don't solve any problems.
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Don't rest with join up . Not only are flights delayed. Also terrible guides. We were in Egypt this year. They don't know anything. Hama. They don't solve any problems.
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answered 6 years ago
UIA cannot change your flight to Bravo, only the tour operator who signs contracts with the airline can change the MOT
The airline bravo airways,anda air, YanAir are affiliated companies, probably in the agreement with TO join up, Pegasus, TPG and Oasis it is indicated that these 3 companies can use boards and replace flights
UIA and windrose also insure each other, for example, TO Coral Travel signed contracts for charter flights with these two companies
In June of this year, several times windrose helped azur airline (the owner of Anex tour) with its board, because azur's plane broke down
The airline bravo airways,anda air, YanAir are affiliated companies, probably in the agreement with TO join up, Pegasus, TPG and Oasis it is indicated that these 3 companies can use boards and replace flights
UIA and windrose also insure each other, for example, TO Coral Travel signed contracts for charter flights with these two companies
In June of this year, several times windrose helped azur airline (the owner of Anex tour) with its board, because azur's plane broke down
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answered 6 years ago
bondarkrivoruchk
"what do you tell the poor Joint up to do in this case, when every air carrier stirs up whatever he wants"
And itself join up not to stir up? Why join up does not control how the airline with which the join signed an agreement serves their tourists, bravo and affiliated companies had problems 2 years ago.
The owners of join up created the sky up airline, they are not so poor
"what do you tell the poor Joint up to do in this case, when every air carrier stirs up whatever he wants"
And itself join up not to stir up? Why join up does not control how the airline with which the join signed an agreement serves their tourists, bravo and affiliated companies had problems 2 years ago.
The owners of join up created the sky up airline, they are not so poor
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answered 6 years ago
Here I am about the same. Mutit, most likely, TO himself, jumping from one carrier to another. He does this for various reasons, arranging, staffing, a charter in a "hot mode" ...
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