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and who do you choose?
Many are not going to Egypt for the first time. As for the tour operators, everything is clear - there is no Aneks, Karye, but the struggle continues regarding Teztour, Turtez, Coral and Pegasus. But I wonder what company you travel from? Where they give intelligible recommendations about hotels, where professionals really work and who sells tours cheaper? Interested in Kiev. Thank you.
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аватар Pachok
I choose only for the price minus Anex.
аватар papa74
I choose TezTour because a monopolist in my region (Dnepr), traveled from Pegasus from Kiev - I didn’t see a difference in service. Pegasus was cheaper, but the road leveled the difference (in price), and Tez had already sold the entire plane from the Dnieper ...
For hotels, see the catalog on the operator’s website (for yourself, the required minimum type: line, beach, coral, pontoon, heated pool. Then in the reviews ... of course, there are + and - everywhere, but most are still objective (and again read about the necessary things for you personally in the hotel)
The community can intelligibly recommend (as for example here). Choose applicants (from what suits you) and ask a question. One head is good, but many are better ...
аватар lvenok
Intourist! super, great guides! also traveled from Pegasus and Mostravel. but now only foreign tourists!)
аватар Elentea
Yes, no. There is a separate topic about tour operators here - there is even some kind of list. It was interesting to learn about travel agents and not about tour operators. In which agent firms do you book tours? Here I order for a certain date, Pegasus, a specific hotel, and the prices from different travel agents are different. And there are a lot of these companies. Who do you choose?
аватар Pachok
All agents have the same prices. The only difference is the amount of discount they are willing to provide. This is the size we choose. From whom to buy - there is no difference, all the service is still provided by the operator.
аватар lvenok
if this was meant, then I absolutely agree with Pachok. all travel agencies should have the same prices, only everything depends on discounts for regular customers
аватар Elentea
hmm .. I called - well, for example, Gamalia is 2 times more expensive than in the other three companies .. and in those three - the prices are also different - for the same hotel with the same tour operator ..
аватар Pachok
Gamaliya is an operator.
"""in those three - also different prices - for the same hotel with the same tour operator"""
Never met this. Dates, conditions of residence are the same? Is it the same flight? Maybe someone immediately calls with a discount?
аватар for_luda
I always buy in hotway (already 5 years)
аватар Elentea
Is Gamaliya an operator?????
no one said a word about the discount. everyone just called their prices for this hotel (date, number of days, meals - in short, the request is the same). There are firms on every corner - but you won’t call everyone .. =) and the difference is significant, as I see it.
аватар oksana.z
I always choose the hotel myself according to the reviews + the requirements that are necessary specifically for my family, I look at the prices from tour operators and already go to the travel agency with this, unfortunately I didn’t always use the same one, but always on the recommendation. Discounts in this case give up to 6%. And with a tourarator I went with only one - Pegasus, they always had reasonable prices at the right time.
аватар Elentea
Yes. I do this too. First, I look at the reviews of the pictures. but there are nuances. it happens that you choose from two hotels, etc. and of course you go to a travel agency and ask for advice, etc. and I go every time from different companies, the prices are different for them) does anyone have favorite travel agencies?
аватар oksana.z
If a travel agent names a price higher than that of a tour operator on the site, then most likely they want to mow money. The price can only be lower (discount) or called the price of different operators.
аватар Elentea
called only turtez =)
аватар X-type
try Voyage (Gallop), - however, there are also some incidents, but the last 3 rounds last year we took from them (Kempinski in Jordan, Atlantis - in Dubai and Dolphin - in Antalya) - in general, everything was like this, as we were promised, but every time I took a lot of information from this site - it helped a lot to clarify the situation and ask the right questions
аватар doigor
We constantly travel via Sputnik. Turtez, Teztur and Pegasus are certainly the best operators in this direction. First, the hotel is with one another with a third operator, then you compare prices and choose. And if the flight was canceled or postponed? A lot depends on the agent, we need a reliable travel agent - he is the link to help us comfortably and timely choose the service we need and deal with all the changes in the travel services market. Good agents offer decent operators, which is why we use their services, discounts are certainly interesting, but it happens that the necessary information that they provided us on time costs us many times more than the money we spent on it. It all depends on the human factor...
аватар Elentea
agree 100 percent. looking for a reliable travel agent!!! =)
аватар dama
I’ve been traveling through the Siesta travel agency (Kyiv) for several years. I started traveling through them and I’m not going to change, the last time I even booked a tour over the phone, but I could also let them down. share his impressions of the trip and give life advice around the country that is not in the brochures. And I'm not an employee of the company, maybe even unfortunately.
аватар Pachok
I also had a positive experience with "Siesta" - once to Egypt, twice to Turkey. They used to cooperate very successfully with Trek Travel, gave discounts of up to 10%, but, unfortunately, last season there was no Trek in Ukraine.
аватар egyptyanochka
In my opinion, this branch has moved into the category of "if you don't praise yourself, no one will praise you." I met a couple of nicknames on this site, only the answers came from a tour manager. oops! And we are already tourists!
the answer is banal! first, on the site of the operator, choose the hotel and price. There, on the site, all operators have a section - where to buy? there are usually the leaders of sales of this operator. and bad agencies do not become leaders. Call a couple and bargain for discounts - you can always beg for 5%. good luck:)))
аватар HotLine
Operators read your stories about discounts and decided - that's enough. Last summer, they collectively reduced the commission for agents by an average of 2%. From April 1, they introduce a single fixed commission for all agents - 10%. Previously, the commission was differentiated, depending on sales volumes. Good agents (like us - :-)) had more. I guess what happens next.
The goal is that operators want their tours to be sold at their price. No discounts, everything is the same. Roughly speaking, the function of the agency will be reduced to the functions of the railway ticket office. Until the operators themselves start selling.
аватар Zlata28
flies to Egypt only with Teztur
all in a bunch, no complaints
know their stuff
аватар Pachok
Poor, poor agencies.....! Just 10%...
How to live further??? And yet, given the number of these same agencies, there will still be competition between them with discounts. And it cannot be otherwise, when 140 seats on the same flight are sold by 700 agencies.
аватар HotLine
to Pachok. Nobody complained about the income. I gave the numbers precisely in order to understand the conclusion formulated in the last paragraph of my answer.
These are objective things. No one forces you to buy tours in agencies. Moreover, in countries with a developed tourist market, tours are not bought the way we do.
I write for those who are interested. Who wants to understand how the market works and how to behave in this market.
For information. More than 7,000 licenses for agency and operator activities have been issued in Ukraine. So there will be discounts, but there will be consequences.
аватар egyptyanochka
for HotLine - as far as I understand - tourism licensing is a fiction. because any person, even without a passport and higher education, can, after some left-handed courses organized by a government agency that issues the same licenses, absolutely calmly call himself a "travel agency" and bake last-minute tours, or rather barry tour operators with baked goods.
аватар egyptyanochka
and try to say at least one of these bakers a word about their professionalism! Oh my God!! all 7000 pieces will beat their chest and prove that they are SUPERpros. but I’m wondering how many of them know that Arab airlines don’t allow fruit in any package to be brought into the cabin (even a bitten mango), and in Thailand, when checking in for a flight, a Thai in civilian clothes walks unnoticed like this - an airline employee estimates weight by eye your hand luggage, so that you can withdraw money for the excess.
аватар egyptyanochka
or the top of super rudeness - the pros to me too! - sit on this site to catch tourists. I wrote a few reviews, I immediately received suggestions in the mail: "oh! come! lick! in the left heel with a kiss! ". cheap! here are the pros and arranged a marathon with discounts. and I'm interested - here are the left-wing contracts that are given when buying a tour. Do they go straight to the trash? after all, of these 7,000 pieces, the bulk of "natural persons-entrepreneurs ". not even legal entities. the higher the discount, the more likely it is to end up in the landfill.
аватар HotLine
I agree, tourism licensing is a sham.
But I didn't write about that. I answered the previous answer and wrote about the number of entities that have the right to sell tours in Ukraine. And before that, I wrote about pricing after your "5% can always beg."
If you want to discuss the quality of work of agencies - you are welcome. But this is trite - everyone has come across and everyone has some kind of unique information. More interesting, why such a situation? And globally - why are they needed? Or in another way - why do they exist?
Here you wrote - buy according to the "where to buy" list. Do you know how this list is formed, for example, by Turtess. And what happened to great retail chains last winter. And what are the operators leading the market to.
And a seemingly abstract question - why are there still no direct flights to Marsa Alam from Ukraine?
You can get frostbitten, as some experts here wrote - "but I need it, I'm a tourist."
But then you need to narrow down your expert conclusions to your position as a tourist. And it will be very interesting and useful for everyone.
аватар HotLine
Interesting topics. Why are contracts for the sale of the tour concluded? What is their official payload? What should be the correct contract? What to pay attention to? Why FOPs? Why should FOP throw the contract in the trash?
But it is interesting to discuss them only with those who are open to information. And there is no point in knocking on a closed door.
аватар Elentea
paid for the tour) spent 3 days =) the difference between travel agencies is $ 300 - I saved on excursions ... like that ..
There is and will be competition!
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