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Is a vacation without a tour really cheaper?
Or is it still better to go through an agency, more reliable and traditional?
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7 subscribers  • asked 2011-08-2513 years ago
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аватар Pachok
Depending on where you are going to fly from.
Finding accommodation (hotel, apartment, villa) is not a problem via the Internet, the choice is wider, and prices are lower than those of operators.
Everything depends on the cost of the flight. If there are flights from budget companies from your city or you have the opportunity to buy a ticket for a charter, then you should try to go on your own.
аватар alex45
Or fly from the city where budget companies fly from. Wizzair flights (if you are from Ukraine) to Barcelona and Valencia from Kyiv are opened.
аватар Milya-M
Thanks to everyone, especially Pachok ))
I will still wait for answers. We plan to fly from Irkutsk, most likely via Moscow.
аватар Anetka-gan
look at what promotional offers there are for a flight from your city, or from MSC (there is a large selection), book a hotel or a flat yourself. prepare documents for the embassy, ​​get a visa - and before
аватар Kitsune
I would also add that such trips should be planned in advance, because. so tickets are cheaper, and you can find cheap hotel deals.
For tickets, look at the flight Irkutsk-Moscow-Bars and back, if you do it with one ticket. It can be a very "delicious" cost. I myself am from Sakhalin, and so, for May, a flight for each person along the route US-Moscow-Barsa-Moscow-US (with a stop for several days in Moscow on the way back) cost 32 thousand. Tickets were bought a little more than a month in advance.
+ also monitor low-cost airlines. Another option is not a direct flight Moscow-Barca or Moscow-Madrid, but with a transfer in the same Prague (you can also buy very inexpensive tickets from Czech Airlines).
аватар AlexBa
Through an agency is more reliable, 100%
An important nuance! Look very carefully for information on the hotel or place where you will be staying.
Sometimes the photos from the hotel website are very beautiful, but... you get the idea.
Further, the topic is, if the agency works directly with some agency abroad, and not, for example, with an agency in Moscow, because you yourself understand the office wants to eat, the price depends on the chain of intermediaries.
But through the agency there are fewer smuts. Most flexible but need experience.
One thing I do not advise is to take INDIVIDUAL excursions in advance. It makes no sense to overpay, as a rule, there are always places for individual ones. Groups can also be taken from the hotel (and any hotel) guide on the spot.
And read the reviews, be sure, but adequate, you need to be able to distinguish the intrigues of competitors or simply "avengers".
аватар Kitsune
AlexBa, about "the most reliable way through the agency" I do not agree with you. The safest and cheapest way is to do it yourself. With regards to hotels, the benefit is now full of information. Yes, according to reviews, it is best to look at reviews on foreign sites. As for individual excursions, there is no point in taking them at all, because. You can make your own itinerary and visit what is interesting on your own.
аватар AlexBa
Lena, explain why otherwise the above arguments are just YOUR opinion on this matter.
I'll explain why:
Any client is important for travel agencies, so they really try to provide maximum comfort and guarantee the services provided.
Further, for agencies, hotels have their own prices. Sometimes the agency even lowers the price especially if you are a group or a family.
I repeat - you can only do it yourself if you have experience.
That is, in fact, it will not be cheaper.
аватар Kitsune
AlexBa, cheaper through a travel agency only to Turkey and Yegi (namely a beach holiday). In other countries it is cheaper by yourself. This is from personal experience. It is cheaper (much cheaper) to go to European countries, Korea, Japan, Viet, Tai. Verified by myself. And the savings are significant.
аватар AlexBa
I will clarify what I was talking about AGENCIES and not about intermediaries or fake offices that simply resell customers.
Your right to ask and find out the whole chain. You yourself think. What is the point of being an agency without discounts on their services from local hotels or transport companies?
In this case, anyone can come, pick up a tour, and then just contact hotels and airlines and go on their own.
Are you going to do the visa yourself too?
In general, I hope I have proved that it is EASIER and MORE CONVENIENT to leave this matter to the agency.
аватар Kitsune
Of course we make visas ourselves. It's not hard. You didn’t prove it to me just because we ourselves drive savages :)
аватар Kitsune
And Schengen through Spain and Holland is generally quite easy to get.
аватар AlexBa
Great, describe the process to the person, and he will decide what to choose.
Compare prices at least for planes.
Perhaps I tried badly, but such a plan did not work for me. If something came out cheaper, then it was spent much more. Given that my time is worth money. And why do I need these heads?
We went to rest, paid and didn’t worry about anything. You can not answer unfortunately there is no time to continue the discussion.
аватар Kitsune
It is your right. A lot of time is being wasted. But I can plan a trip for a month or two. It gives me pleasure. + my work is partly related to planning flights, routes, etc. So I combine business with pleasure. You could say it's my hobby. But there are so many new things. As for advice, I can certainly help in any way I can.
Regarding the price of the plane, I already wrote above. You need to plan everything in advance, look at the prices of large carriers, low-cost airlines, direct and with transfers, etc.
About 4 years ago, I was terribly afraid to travel on my own. But since then, my family and friends have just "hooked" on it. It's like a drug - seek, plan, choose, compare.
аватар alex45
to AlexBa! Here this dispute is like a dispute about a chicken and an egg, what happened before! TA representatives will write to you that it’s better with them. You do not spend a lot of time, but it is expensive for you, and all TAs have their own 5-10% of the prices of tour operators, otherwise they would not work, and in some countries it is impossible to rest without THAT. monopoly on charters, and the other will be more expensive. But ... last year I had a rest in Turkey, $ 900 in HV-1, I developed the route on my own. Low-cost flight. The same ticket cost people $ 1500 through TA, this year Venice + a cruise in Croatia (12 days) at the price of a normal five in Turkey. It is worth the time I spent on an independent search.
аватар murkotik
Hello! We want to have a rest on Koh Samui with my husband and child (10 months). Haven't been to Thailand yet. Tell me, how is it better to do it - by yourself or through a travel agency? We are planning a 2-week vacation in mid-September.
аватар Kitsune
Murkotik, there are two opposite opinions. For me, in Tai, the cheapest thing is to do it yourself, but see for yourself. Count, choose.
аватар murkotik
We ourselves have not traveled yet, only through travel agencies. At first glance, it seems difficult to organize a trip on your own, and even with a small child. In addition, there is not much time to organize. Or I'm wrong?
аватар Kitsune
look at the sites where the cheapest tickets can be bought. then hotels (there are several sites where there are discounts on accommodation, the same agoda or booking com). If you have already been to Thailand, then it will be easy for you. + Read actively various forums. Here, too, Tai has been discussed many times. There is nothing terrible. The only thing is that it takes enough time to study all this.
аватар sigur62
Here I agree with Lena and Alex.
It's cheaper to do it yourself, but you have to know how.
If you know how - relax cheaply, if you don't know how - they will organize everything for you, but it will be more expensive. You will not become a sucker from this, you will just pay more.
Have a good rest everyone!
аватар sigur62
By the way, getting a visa is really not a problem. TAs usually paint terrible pictures of ordeals when obtaining a visa on their own, although in reality everything is much simpler and more pleasant.
аватар alex45
100% correct, but how to be able if you don’t study, and here some are too lazy to even go into hotel reviews and read before asking questions. This is general, does not apply to this particular issue. Well, of course, time is needed. I , however, I’m not sure, like some comrades here, that TA will find the best option for everyone and it’s more reliable through them (we read here about settling in other hotels and about not providing the necessary information), but what’s faster is for sure. You’ll get to the bottom yourself to all the nuances, collect the maximum information and go, already knowing what awaits you and what can be.
аватар murkotik
Thanks everyone for the replies. We will try.
аватар Pachok
murkotik, it is cheaper to go to the Thai islands by yourself, and there is nothing complicated in organizing - this country is very convenient for an independent tourist. I love Koh Samui very much, I only go there on my own, if you have any questions, write here or in a personal message, I’ll tell you what I know.
Moreover, I saw in your profile that you, like me, are from Ukraine, and we have:
- there are no charters to Thailand, operators consider the total cost of a ticket for a regular flight in the cost of a ticket,
- in Pattaya you can still catch something at a decent price, and the islands are bent at completely indecent prices. And this despite the fact that the cost of Pattaya and "island" hotels does not differ.
аватар Pachok
"In general, I hope I proved that it is EASIER and CONVENIENT to leave this matter to the agency."
And what, it's funny :) You're not "proving" there! This should be told to those tourists who have never traveled themselves.
аватар Milya-M
Thanks everyone! From Spain, we smoothly moved to Thailand, but oh well. Then I have the following question: is it better to apply for a Schengen visa or do it only with a Spanish one?
аватар Kitsune
spanish schengen
аватар sigur62
Schengen is Schengen everywhere. Therefore, the question "is it better to apply for a Schengen visa or do only Spanish?" inappropriate. You can not "get by with only a Spanish" visa, because "only Spanish" does not happen. A visa obtained for entry into any Schengen country is also valid for entry into any other Schengen country.
аватар alex45
There are no national visas in Schengen. That's why it is the Schengen zone, so that a visa to Spain (the so-called Spanish Schengen) applies to all Schengen countries
аватар Milya-M
Everything is clear, I went to eliminate gaps in visa knowledge, there will be no more stupid questions :-)
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