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Good afternoon, tell me please, I have never opened a visa and abroad. the passport is still clean, will they open a visa for me (if I understood the Schengen visa correctly, but I could be wrong) for 21 days.
I want to visit Finland (but they can’t send me invitations because they live and work in Finland but are Estonian citizens), so tell me, maybe it’s better to apply for a visa at the invitation of friends to Estonia and from Estonia to go to Finland (but the main place of stay will be Finland) and will it not be a problem to get to Finland and stay there?
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аватар Stella73
It seems to me easier, and cheaper in terms of money, it will be to contact a travel agency to apply for a Finnish visa,
than to travel through Estonia.
аватар alex45
Estonia is also a Schengen zone, you will enter through Estonia, then you can go wherever you want to any country in the European Union. Everything will be right!
аватар Stella73
Yes, that's right, only time and money are lost to travel first to Estonia.
There are firms specializing in opening visas, which are not so expensive, and you don’t need to do anything yourself, they prepare the entire package of documents. Since the visa is the first, that is, it makes sense through an agency, IMHO.
аватар alex45
Stella, why did you decide that it would be cheaper through TA? Was it calculated or does it seem? The girl will also visit her friends in Estonia, except for Finland. Here is another thing, why can't acquaintances send an invitation from Finland, they are Estonian citizens, but work and live without a residence permit in Finland?
Then it’s quite simple to ask for a tourist visa, not to get involved with invitations, and acquaintances in their Finnish town will take a voucher at the hotel, send it for a visa, you will have tickets, you will receive a visa.
аватар Stella73
Airfare.
Ukraine-Estonia-Finland-Ukraine, will be more expensive than
retur Ukraine-Finland, it is logical after all.
What is spent on a ticket to Estonia can be spent on visa assistance services.
аватар alex45
I’m not sure, everything has to be considered. It’s better to know with numbers than with logic. For example, they were looking with their son for the cheapest way to fly from Copenhagen to Ukraine. They were looking through the Baltic states, through Eastern Europe. .In life I could not think, it's like scratching the left ear through the back of the head with the right hand. So everything has to be counted.
From Tallinn by ferry to Helsinki, to Tallinn, in my opinion, a low-cost flies. But I don’t know if there is a direct charter to Helsinki.
аватар hatinka
Are you from Ukraine? Then look, Estonians are cunning bugs. Our friend had probably 5 visas with them - all for work, per annum. A bunch of other visas, according to the passport it is clear that the tourist. But when he and his wife came up with a route along those parts (the Baltic states + Scandinavia) and decided to ask the Estonians, they quickly broke them off. They know perfectly well that in their tiny country a tourist will not stick around for a long time and when they saw a coolly scheduled route through Estonia (and that’s all) for 9 days, they directly said that I don’t believe it! You will go, like everyone else, to Norway, Sweden, the fjords are all business, Stockholm is there ... And bring us a paid hotel for the entire period in Estonia and we will believe you))) This despite the fact that at the time of filing, pay for the hotel was not necessary, but they have the right)
What am I for? When you go to Estonia for 21 days, for the first time, from Ukraine and not to relatives, but just acquaintances, it is somehow strange))) Although an invitation from Estonian citizens and an Estonian visa is a good option, this cannot be taken away. It's bad that the citizens are just acquaintances ...
аватар hatinka
Tourist visa to Finland. Great option if:
- you have money officially confirmed - salary, bank account, sponsorship (which is worse)
-You will prepare the route of the trip, write it down, they say we will spend the night here (hotel), we are watching this, this is how we get here
- you will have to make an advance payment before applying for a visa - at least hotels, at least air tickets.
If you fly yourself for the 21st day for the first time, it's a little strange, of course.
In addition, you can make a route through several countries - take the most popular route through the main beauties of the Baltic and Scandinavia - 5-7 days in the main cities. One of the places will just be Estonia - and of all the countries it should have the most nights in it - this fact will give you the opportunity to go to the Estonians. You look at the rest of the countries as a tourist - book hotels, write a route. You can add Latvia and other countries. What gives, besides more hassle with reservations and the route?
аватар hatinka
Experience and the fact that everything looks like this: You finally decided to look at the world (well, there was a vacation there and time appeared) and decided to start from the country where your girlfriend lives (for example). She has not been seen for a long time, you want to visit, you miss her. They have a week in Estonia - they will show everything and then look also at neighboring countries - there are so many interesting things! You make a route, receive an invitation from Estonian friends, book on sites where you can cancel reservations a day before arrival (Venera.com for example) and serve. You are unlikely to be asked by Estonians to pay in advance for hotels NOT in Estonia. And in their country you visit friends. Additionally, just in case, you need to have papers, pictures, an honest story, and who are these people to you? Maybe they are pimps, huh?
But if your Estonians work and live in Finland officially, then:
-they can invite their friends to Finland, acquaintances - there are no prohibitions on this matter!
-If they themselves do not live in Estonia, then you cannot live with them in Estonia, right. Then he can neither vouch for you, nor settle. However, I'm not sure that they have some semblance of our "consular records" and the Estonians themselves are aware of which of their citizens works abroad in Estonia, even if officially.
аватар hatinka
If you nevertheless went through the links given to you by the consulate or the EC of Finland, you would easily find the lists of documents and the fact that if the inviting person is not a citizen of Finland, then add copies of his passport with pages that contain information about the residence permit to the package ...
аватар sigur62
From Estonia to Finland - easy, simple and very cheap.
By ferry.
аватар Stella73
I was not too lazy and looked - a ticket for a direct flight to Helsinki, round trip,
from Kyiv, costs about 250 euros. A visa will also cost about 100-200 euros (including consular fees, consultation, filling out insurance forms and everything else), the cost depends on the appetite of the agency)).
It is unlikely that if you fly through Estonia, and draw up all the documents yourself, it will turn out cheaper.
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again, I'm from experience. I once made an invitation to relatives, for Schengen. I had to run and fill in, and sign, and wait so much, and to them too, that since then I have been sending money for a visa along with electronic tickets, it’s easier to overpay 100-150 euros than so much fuss - well, it’s easier for me personally.
аватар Stella73
Alex, yes, there are options with tickets, such as from Amsterdam to Paris via Istanbul, but very cheap))
Indirect is almost always cheaper.
аватар NatashaS
Listen, Stella73, you somehow very persistently send the young lady to apply for a visa on forged documents. Not good, however.
And now to the point. To obtain a visa, you need either an invitation or a hotel reservation. Paid reservation or not - read on the website of the consulate (and a complete list of documents at the same time). Collect the entire package of documents and stomp to the consulate or visa center. If the documents and the purpose of the trip did not raise questions, then nothing else is usually required.
аватар Stella73
Maybe not good, but I know what bureaucracy is.
And each country has its own nuances.
And in travel agencies they are usually known.
If the Finnish consulate in Ukraine does not particularly commit atrocities, then yes, it’s better on your own, hotel reservation + tickets + questionnaire + income statement + insurance + photo +
... well, I don’t know what, it depends on the country, I don’t have information about the Finnish consulate, what he is and how he is in Ukraine.
As a rule - if the girl is young, traveling for the first time, and alone - to her to some extent - increased attention, and this is everywhere.
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And the Balts are somewhat overzealous, sometimes, there are cases of refusals to a person with several Schengen already; and in front of my eyes from Riga (I had a transplant there) they deported a lady who had little money - only 300 dollars - and yes, they asked me to show them, and her words that her husband meets, and what else is on the bank card - sort of no one heard. she just stood there and cried, for several hours in a row. They didn’t really let her through passport control, they put a stamp in her passport, and she was waiting for the plane back in the transit zone.
So it's better to pay a little more and apply through an agency - they will do all the documents there and teach you how to answer "frequently asked questions".
аватар Stella73
And next time, on your own.
You see, I have experience. I also need a visa to Russia, and fuck it, how bad it is, I pay 50 euros for an invitation, and 40 euros for administrative services + a consular fee, and my head doesn’t hurt, is everything drawn up correctly.
And when they sent me an invitation from Russia, a person there also ran so much everywhere, and I am also here, that it is much easier to pay.
Well, again, this is my personal position of perception. When I travel, I do this, and those who come to me do the same.
And once again - there is time to find all the information about the country, and the opportunity (and time) to collect all the documents, and no matter what they raise questions in the consulate - then you can do it yourself.
аватар anna-16
thank you very much everyone for your help
аватар alex45
And yet, Anna, you are from Zaporozhye, I am too. I recommend, I work with this travel agency on independent individual tourism, tel. 212-51-97, get advice from specialists. what they can, you can find out there by tickets, etc.
аватар LaFifa
Personally, I have five Estonian Schengen in my passport, I opened the last two on my own. It costs 36 euros + 300 UAH for the services of the visa center. Air flight Kyiv-Tallinn-Kyiv -180-200 euros. It is cheaper to fly with a connection in Riga - "AirBaltic" or take a very early direct flight from "Estonian Air" - a ticket "light" - from 70 euros one way (WITHOUT luggage). The cheapest way to get to Tallinn is by bus "Ecolines" -450 UAH (45 euros) one way. The ticket price includes 30 kg of luggage, the journey takes 20 hours. Ferry ticket from Tallinn to Helsinki - 30 euros one way. If you take a "day cruise" (departure and return on the same day), then 30-36 euros will cost a round-trip ferry ride. It's about "high cost".
By visa: if you are a student, you have the right to apply to the consulate directly without a visa center (save 300 UAH). If you are going by invitation to book and prepay a hotel in Estonia, you DO NOT NEED to attach PAID tickets to Estonia and back to the package of documents - this will be your "proof" of your stay in the country.
аватар LaFifa
The questionnaire for the embassy is filled out online in Russian, but in Latin letters, printed out and carried to the consulate. You can find the full list of documents on the embassy website: http://kiiev.vm.ee/ukr/viza/aid-568 There are also requirements to the invitation, how it should look, etc. The only thing is that you should not count on the "cartoon" the first time. Although, of course, there are different "miracles".
аватар travelalex
I totally agree about the ferry. I myself traveled from Finland to Estonia by ferry, it takes 3 hours to go there. It costs 25-40 euros, and depends on the day of the week and the time of departure. You don't need to take a cabin. If you buy back and forth, then they make a 10-15% discount. Well, the trip itself is very pleasant and interesting.
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