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We want to see Portugal and relax at sea
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We want to see Portugal and relax at sea
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аватар Pachok
Independently or organized tour, budget or unlimited costs? :)
аватар AllOverTheWorld
Season? And how long do you plan to spend in Portugal?
аватар luzhnyak.mira
We plan in August for 2 weeks, one of which to rest on the coast.
thank you
аватар Pachok
So, what kind of food do you have?
аватар AllOverTheWorld
August is peak season. There will be a lot of people. Beach holiday - Madeira or Lisbon area (Cascais, Ashtrail, Setubal, etc.)
Must see: Lisbon, Sintra, Porto. This is in short.
I will support Pachok, what is the essence of the question?)
If you want to see it, go see it. Portugal is a wonderful country. There are a lot of offers for both group tours and individual tours. Portugal is also a very comfortable country for independent tourism.
аватар mariannar1008
Hi there! I was in Portugal in July 2016 and I want to share information. I would like to draw your attention to the fact that although Portugal is a warm country, it is quite cool in the evening by the ocean, so it is worth taking a jacket.
In Lisbon, housing in the Alfama area (center) cost 285 euros (three nights for 4 people). The cost of food averaged 30 euros per day In Lisbon, I recommend visiting: 1) the National Pantheon, where the relics of Vasco da Gama and a magnificent observation deck to the city - 4 euros / person;
2) aquarium -17 euros / person; 3) Castle of St. George - 8.5 euros / person. 4) Jeronimos Monastery.
In Lisbon, they rented a car from drive on holidays for 6 days, paid 350 euros (50 euros overpayment for booking, 300 euros payment in the city). There are toll roads in Portugal, so we paid another 50 euros after our trip. Diesel: 1.3 euros / liter.
аватар mariannar1008
After Lisbon, we moved to Sintra, where we visited the castle of the Moors-8 euros / person. The castle is located on top of a mountain, and can be reached through a tropical park of incredible beauty. Next to the Moorish castle is the Pina Palace, to which we donated the artefacts of the Montserrat Palace (8 euros / person), which was recommended to us by a local guide.
From Sintra we went to the extreme point of Europe, Miss Rock. I advise everyone to visit there, because it is an unusual place that impresses with the power of the elements.
We spent the night in Penisha, a place for surfers, where the hostel paid 25 euros / person. You can rent a board and wetsuit on the beach for 15 euros / day. I don't particularly surf, because the waves in Penisha are very big and the water temperature is 18 degrees.
From Peniche moved to the city-charming-bridges of Porto.
аватар mariannar1008
In Porto, I recommend a steamboat ride on the Douro River under 6 fine bridges, one of which was designed by the Eiffel itself! A ticket for the steamer costs 12.5 euros / person and gives the opportunity to taste port wine at the end of the tour (on the river near the restaurant Sandeman). For lunch, I advise you to try the local dish francesinha (8.5 euros), which is difficult to eat because of the giant portion.
Not far from Porto is a very beautiful beach Leca da Palmeira. The beach has a paid area with a swimming pool (6 euros / day + 1 euro umbrella) (ocean water 17.7 degrees). Nearby is McDonald's, where you can have a cheap snack (ice cream and coffee 3 euros).
аватар mariannar1008
Well, the icing on the cake will be Lagos-paradise on earth. Although we drove 600 km from Porto to Lagos, it was worth it. On the way we stopped in Coimbra-city to be famous for the university library of Juanin (12 euros / person).
An apartment was rented in Lagush for 105 euros / day (for 4 people). Donnie Annie's beach, a quiet harbor with a sandy beach with caves and grottoes, impressed with its incredible beauty. I advise you to take a kayak tour (25 euros / person) - this is the best thing that has happened in my life. The tour lasts 2 hours, you swim through caves and grottoes on the blue-green water. The ocean in Lagush is warm (22 degrees), so swimming in it is a pleasure, and since the water is clear and transparent, take water glasses with you, because there is something to look at))))
аватар Valentina-zam
Our itinerary was like this. In January we bought cheap tickets via AVIO from Warsaw to Lisbon, TAP Portugal airline. (make sure that luggage is included or you can buy it later). Two families drove to Warsaw from Ukraine on a budget (gas) by car and put it in the parking lot. We walked around Lisbon. On the Internet, back in Ukraine, we bought EVA bus tickets (round trip) from Lisbon to Lagos (PayPal will help you). Why to Lagos, because there is a warm ocean and beautiful places. The beaches are sandy, even aquashoes were not needed. We rented apartments through Booking, there are a lot of supermarkets. Food can be found for any budget. A lot of impressions. I recommend to visit there. You should definitely go in the southwestern direction from Sagesh to Odysseish and see another, restless ocean, there are surfers and the water is colder, but beautiful!
аватар polina222333
I am very grateful to the people who left their descriptions and tips for traveling to Lisbon, so I want to continue this relay and leave my advice to future travelers.
1) Weather. I was in Lisbon for 7 days in January 2019. Weather - 16-20 degrees, periodically windy. The rains were, but small - only a few times briefly frostbitten and the sun appeared, although the forecasts indicated - rains all day. The hotel is damp, things are drying badly.
2) Plan where you want to go and how. And not one option, but several - because additional information may come - where more interesting, and where the repair and so on.
3) Language. Employees at railway stations and stations, in large stores, bus drivers are fluent in English. People are very friendly - even those who do not know English, try to help.
I wrote down a whole phrasebook for myself, but really only used numerals (when they explain how much it costs or the bus number) and the following expressions:
аватар polina222333
good day - bon dia, good evening - boa tarde, thank you - obrigAda (men say obrigAdo), sorry - dishkulpe, this - e, where there is - Onde e, bus - autokAru, train - combo, stop - parAr, station -, how much does it cost - quando cost, very much - a lot, well - ben, yes - yes, no - no, it doesn't work - no funciOna, schedule - orario.
4) Money. Cards are not taken: drivers, in ticket vending machines, on trays with souvenirs, etc. Therefore, I highly recommend having cash and, in particular, coins. The Portuguese go with heavy wallets :)
5) Lisbon - food. Lots of expensive tourist restaurants. There are many restaurants for locals, in particular - Asian, Arabic cuisine. Many confectioneries - pate. There is a cool place Time Market opposite Cais de Sodre - a food court with restaurants, beautiful and relatively cheap. Works from 12 o'clock. In addition, in Lisbon there are small grocery stores and small supermarkets everywhere.
аватар polina222333
In some supermarkets there are cafes where you can have a snack or take with you, however, the choice is small. Do not forget in such supermarkets-cafes at the entrance to the spool to take a coupon and see when your number is displayed on the board. There may be one coil, and there may be separate - "with " - "levare " and "in place " - "na loja ". The most common supermarket is Pingo Doce, but I preferred the bigger Continent. In general, be prepared for short queues, but very slow cashiers who like to talk to customers. Lisbon loves and cooks fish, in particular, sardines and cod (en - codfish, pt - bacalao groceries).
6) Lisbon - on foot. Contrary to myths, Lisbon is not terrible in terms of ups and downs. It is real to walk around the whole center.
7) Lisbon - transport. Well developed, comfortable, punctual in Lisbon :). Metro map here https://www.metrolisboa.pt/en/travel/diagrams-and-maps
аватар polina222333
I did not find a general convenient transport map. For example, it fed people how to get from Belem to Pombala Square - direct bus 727. If from Belem to the center (FigEiros Square) - tram 15. There is a historic tram №28, but it is always packed. Features: to stop transport, you need to vote. The door opens at the touch of a button on the door. I needed a storage room (Cacifos Automáticos - Cassifos Automáticos - they are available at all stations, automatic, from 1.5 euros, easy to understand the instructions, but my machine did not work.
8) Lisbon - payment for transport. There are several payment options, I used the Viva Viagem card and filled it with money (zapping). You can also pay at the entrance (more expensive), or buy other travel options, I chose Viva Viagem zapping according to reviews and will describe only my experience. From the airport, I went to the subway and saw vending machines with inscriptions in Portuguese.
аватар polina222333
It is good that at 11 o'clock in the evening there was an employee who, at my request "Viva Viagem zapping 15 euros, please" quickly managed the machine gun and saw my card full. The card itself costs 0.5 euros, you can fill it with the amounts of 3, 5, 10, 15, 20 euros, the machine gives the deposit, the card is not accepted. I replenished the card on my own, agreed with the machine myself. The Viva Viagem card can be used to pay for various modes of transport, including commuter trains to Cascais and Sintra, cable cars and even ferries to the other side of the river. The card must be attached to a turnstile or machine, and it will show how much money is left. When leaving the subway, you also need to attach it to the turnstile. Thank you annaportugal http://annaportugal.ru/lissabon-obshhestvennnyj-transport-elektrichki-v-gorode-i-blizhajshix-pr igorodax/ Also thank you ire-liya = 238753
аватар polina222333
10) Map. I recommend using an offline map for walking around the city, on which you put labels in advance (for example, you take an article about Lisbon, you liked the place - you kill its name on this map and put a label), and then build a route to the label. (You don't have to follow this route, of course - there are so many interesting things around :)) I used the Maps.me map and everything was very clear, it even shows stitches.
11) Some of my tags: Miradouro da Nossa Senhora do Monte - the best mirador, Sete Rios, Oriente, Rossio, Campo Grande, Cais do Sodre, Time Out Market, Museu Calouste Gulbenkian, Feira da Ladra - Campo de Santa Clara (Sun Flea Market and Panoramic Azulejo), Praca do Comercio (Praça de Comercio) - the largest square, Praca de Dom Pedro IV, Praça da Figueira (Praça de Figéira), Praça Luís de Camões Luich de CamoEns), Bikush House - Rua Bacalhoeiros 8
аватар polina222333
Se in Piazza Largo da Se - Lisbon's main cathedral, Igreja da Sao Vicente de Fora - Convent of San Vicente de Fora, Igreja de Santo Domingos, Igreja de Santo Antonio de Lisboa, Carmo Archaeological Museum, Sao Carlos San Carlos Opera House on Rua Serpe Pinto, A Brasileira by Rua Garrett, 120 - Art Nouveau cafe (1905) “The poet Fernando Pessoa liked to come here. Yes, he is here now. Cast in bronze, Pessoa continues to watch visitors to the cafe. - quote Nadia Alekseeva http://travelask.ru/portugal/lisbon, National Palace of Ajuda Palácio Nacional da Ajuda in Belen (not reached), National Pantheon
12) Lisbon - excursions. For an initial acquaintance with the city, I recommend visiting a tour or even several in different areas. As in other European cities, you can google Free walking tours. Excursions are called Free and are paid at the end of the tour - whoever deems it necessary. There are many of them in Lisbon. I visited "Tours of my life" Alpha and Morari, very pleased
аватар polina222333
13) Lisbon - the historic center. There are several historical districts, but their map is not clear. Except for Belem, all the historic areas are close, you can get around in the afternoon. "Bohemian Shiadu and tourist Baisha. Bright and proud of Bayr Alto and the pompous Avenida. Majestic Castle and Alpha, tearing the soul ... Mouraria - medina "(quote Oleg Ivanov https://www.tourister.ru/responses/id_21741)
14) Lisbon - observation decks. There are many of them, called miradors. The tallest and best is Miradouro da Senhora do Monte. Others are also beautiful - not so great looking, but usually in the park, where you can relax. I really liked Miradouro das Portas do Sol.
Tags on miradora: Miradouro de Santo Amaro, Miradouro de Recolhimento, Miradouro de San Pedro de Alcântara, Miradouro de Portas do Sol, Miradouro de Santa Luzia, Miradouro de Santa Catarina
аватар polina222333
Terraços do Carmo, Miradouro da Senhora do Monte, Miradouro Da Graça
15) Lisbon - Gulbenkian Museum. Free on Sundays from 2 p.m. The Pleasant Museum of Contemporary Art also hosts exhibitions. The park is very beautiful with different types of plants.
16) Belem (Belen) - district of Lisbon, away from the center. Getting there: tram 15 from Piazza Figeira (stops at Cais do Sodré and Praça do Comércio), tram from Cais de Sodre station (slightly more expensive - 1.90 vs. 1.33 - but faster. There is also a white Viva viagem card), buses 714, 728, 729, 751 (for example, from Pombala Square direct bus 727). The monastery, the church and the tower are closed on Monday. The monastery is very beautiful, 15 minutes to the tower. They say the middle of the tower is empty, you should not go. Historic confectionery, which sells original pate. Of course, a long queue, but it will be faster and more pleasant to go to the middle of the restaurant (there are many halls, the interior is beautiful) and take a table. The pate itself, to my taste, is like all confectioneries
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17) Cascais (Cascais) - a resort town closest to Lisbon Ocean. Getting from Cais de Sodre by train takes 20 minutes, and the road along the river and ocean takes half an hour. Payment - 1.9 euros with a white viva viagem card. Beautiful center of town, similar to Cannes. The road from the center to the west is beautiful, sunny - along the ocean, rocks, there is a bike path. The popular Boca do Inferno is a 20-minute walk away.
18) Cabo da Roca - the westernmost point of Europe. Get there - bus 403 from Cascais (20 minutes - 3.40 euros) or from Sintra (hour). Stop in Cascais - from the station to the right and behind the mall, pay the driver. It will take 20 minutes to look down from the cliff and take a photo. Bus schedule here https://scotturb.com/carreira-403-inverno/ pay attention to the notes - in the evening the 403rd bus on Cabo da Roca do not go
аватар polina222333
19) Sintra - a tourist town. On Saturday, Sunday and Monday there are a lot of people, choose other days (Monday - because in Lisbon itself on this day almost everything is closed - museums, pantheons, some churches - and people go to Sintra). To get from the station Rossio (Rossio) by train (There is also a white card Viva viagem), at the exit of the station sharply to the right - bus stops. I decided in advance that I would go to Quinta da Regaleira and Monserrat, but not to Pena and Castelo dos Mouros. That's why I was approached by bus 434, which goes first to Quinta da Regaleira, then to Monserrat and back (goes non-stop through Colares) - when you get on this bus again, the same ticket is valid. I really liked Quinta da Regaleira. Must visit. Monserrat Park is, of course, weaker, but also pleasant. The palace is beautiful and very photogenic. Since the traffic is one-way, the bus stop 434 on the way out of Montserrat is there, not in the opposite direction
аватар polina222333
Sintra Center is tourist, photogenic, several interesting places, museums, parks, National Palace (not reached). There is such a place - Vila Sassetti - ask the locals, there is no map on Maps.me and Google - it leads to a very beautiful path among the flowers up. Then everything becomes not so prosperous - steps among the rocks, but it is not difficult to climb. Although the view of the Moorish castle is vertical above Sintra. The trail leads to the square with the info center, from which the path leads to the Moorish fortress - just to the left, and the highway to the left to the castle of Penny (15 minutes). There are no observation decks on top. I went down the highway - also very picturesque.
аватар polina222333
20) Obidos (O 'bidush) - town. Small, beautiful, touristy, photogenic. Go around the fortress wall. Hours are enough. Get there - the bus company rodotejo (rodotEzhu) from the metro Campo Grande, the stop can be recognized by the large buses of this company - to the right of the station, if you look from the center. Thank you Kat_M for the instruction Buses run every hour: 6:00, 7:00 and so on, the road takes a little more than an hour. Tickets from the driver. The historic center is right next to the stop. At the bus stop hanging schedule, I was lucky - the schedule was almost correct :).
21) Peniche (Peniche) - a town undeservedly unpopular in forums. This is a peninsula of picturesque rocks, the whole did not even have time to go around. Some interesting tourist places. Cafe for locals with fresh fried fish for 5.40 euros - opposite the info center. Get there - from Obidos at the bus stop there is a schedule, 20 minutes drive. Return bus to Obidos at 17:00.
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22) Batalha - a town around the monastery. There is nothing to do in the town itself. The construction of the monastery is grand. An audio guide in English with a modest description is provided as collateral for the documents. Getting there - 2 hours by bus https://www.rede-expressos.pt from the bus station Sete Rios (Sete Rios). The bus station is easy to find - a pointer when leaving the house of the metro / station. The ticket offices are obviously open 24 hours a day, but I didn't know that and I took a bus ticket online at 7 am. Probably cheaper - 11.40 euros. After the Battalion, I had Alcobaca in my plans, but I had enough monasteries that day and I really wanted to go to the ocean, so I decided to go to Nazare (Nazare) right away, where I had already bought a return ticket. I did not like long-distance transport - the schedule is not accurate either at stops or on the website. In reality, the bus to Alcoba at 11.32 immediately after Alcoba (hurray!) Goes to Nazari.
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23) Nazare (Nazare) - a resort town on the ocean, known for its high waves, popular with surfers. There is a place to walk in the lower part, and in the upper - on the rocks. Wide and large beach, behind the rock is another - North Beach. You can climb the rock by cable car or on foot - the street to the right of the cable car. On the rock is the very edge of the rock fortress. Behind it are metal steps to the observation deck, where the waves crash against the rock. There are no "caution" labels, but be careful. To the right of the fortress is the North Beach, which can be easily reached by dirt road. Getting to Nazar - 1.5 hours by bus https://www.rede-expressos.pt from the bus station Sete Rios (Sete Rios). You can include Obidush in the tour after Nazari, but there are not enough hours to stay in Nazari, and it will not be interesting in Obidushi in the evening. Thanks for the helpful feedback
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25) A few more useful sources that helped a lot in planning, thank you! http://album.turizm.ru/story/36085-lissabon_i_okrestnosti_sintra_lejriya/
https://forum.awd.ru/viewtopic.php?f=965&t=238753
https://trip-together.ru/sintra-faq/ -
http://iturizmo.ru/razgovorniki/russko-portugalskij-razgovornik.html
https://www.tourister.ru/world/europe/portugal/city/lisbon/tips/5886
http://www.sintra-portugal.com/sintra-ru.html
https://forum.awd.ru/viewtopic.php?f=965&t=354653
http://marinatravelblog.com/portugaliya-lissabon-1/
https://34travel.me/post/lissabon
https://www.otzyv.ru/read.php?id=175571
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