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is it worth traveling with a baby?
hello, tell me if it is possible to go here with a baby, how noisy is the hotel and how suitable is it for a family holiday?
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16 subscribers  • asked 2010-09-1314 years ago
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аватар abysfinks
This topic has been raised time and again. As a tourist who prefers to relax and not sniff fucking diapers on the plane, not to hear the crying of babies and the indignation of young mothers, including other food problems (restaurants, etc.), I do not recommend it. If you don't care how they look at you and what they say about you, if you don't care about those people who came to rest after working hard at construction sites or in stuffy offices, etc., then this is a completely normal hotel. Great for family holidays. Nothing personal, I just want to go to a decent hotel and RELAX normally, but I have to go to three or hotels according to the HB system, because. there are no new mothers!!!
аватар IrinkaG
the previous review is typical for the CIS society. Everyone in the west always and everywhere carries their newborn babies. they do not interfere with anyone - this is welcome, this is normal. and for us it is a nightmare, both for others and for the mothers themselves. A couple of years, poor things, are deleted from life, but for what? To make someone feel comfortable on the plane? Do you need it, think about everyone? Think about yourself and your baby. and he is happy where his mother is. And babies, by the way, perfectly tolerate the flight, you just need to feed them during takeoff and landing. And normal people look at the "new mothers" very well. Go to the hotel, have a great rest and don't listen to anyone.
аватар _Ivi_
Babies "feel great on a plane" feel so good on takeoff and landing that they even poop. Great attitude towards your child. Name at least one nation besides the Russians, who so massively transport babies to another climatic zone with overloads on the plane. Let's not pretend, in this case, MOM and only MOM go to rest, and the child is a cover for her conscience, the remnants of which are still lingering, and she knows perfectly well that any pediatrician will forbid such a trip. Be honest even with yourself. Have a good rest mom, sorry for the child.
аватар _Ivi_
And one more thing, family vacations are married couples, including the elderly, couples without children (this is when children stay with their grandparents), families with children of a normal adequate age who already understand where they are, what is happening to them and able to behave in society.
аватар Pachok
@ you only need to feed them on takeoff and landing. @
Yes Yes Yes! And definitely SISE!!!
The people were completely stunned ... Soon they will give birth on airplanes, just not to miss one season of all-inclusive :(
"family vacations are married couples, including the elderly, couples without children (this is when children stay with their grandparents), families with children of a normal adequate age who already understand where they are, what is happening to them and who know how to behave in society."
Absolutely agree!
аватар koroshchenko
Many Europeans go, I specify, complete families with children. Children of different ages also ride in position. All people have the right to rest. In my opinion, you need to consult a pediatrician, if there are no contraindications, take the recommended supply of medicines and choose specialized hotels for families with children (fortunately, there are such hotels in Turkey), it will be more convenient for you, there will not be "kind" people who gave previous answers.
аватар _Ivi_
The Internet is a public place, everyone writes what he thinks (within the limits of decency, from which you were the first to come out), so when asking a question, you must be prepared for any discussion of it. The opinion that respondents to questions are "sitting" on the site is erroneous, here people who communicate by interests, if they are interested in a question or have any opinion about it, they will answer you, if not, then no. Public transport, in our case, an airplane, as well as a hotel, places (sorry for the taftology) are public and there are rules of conduct, both prescribed and ethical in public places (usually parents teach this in childhood). They tried to convey to you that your desire to take an infant to another climate by plane is immature, i.e. Apparently, you have not yet reached the age (not biological, but according to the level of personality development) of readiness to take responsibility for a new life.
In simpler terms, you were not yet ready for the birth of a child and the refusal in his favor of the benefits of a free life. Apparently it didn't work. You can continue to ask questions and answer them in your usual boorish manner. Try to forbid me to ask questions to you, there would be a desire =).
аватар HotLine
Some people don't like babies in hotels, some don't like pensioners, some don't like top-less Germans, some gays, some lesbians...
Anyway. This is a travel forum.
I will answer as an expert.
1. Family hotels are hotels with large green areas. And preferably a club hotel. Granada is not like that.
2. It is wrong to travel with very young children to places where you yourself have not been.
3. It is clear that this is not good for a small child - flights, climate and environment changes. And physical risks (for example, mom was poisoned by local food). The advantages of rest (sea, air, comfort) are insignificant for such small ones. Two bowls - parent pluses and minuses for children. Who has which cup is heavier.
аватар kuruoglu
The most annoying opinion of others is that if you have a small child, you should sit next to him, and not climb out all the time from the playgrounds.
Why can young people make noise in a hotel, a little "under the shofe" and this is normal - they take a break from working days. And if a mother cries a child, then immediately a bunch of condemning looks ... Do you think it's easy to be in an interesting position for 9 months, give birth, educate and not have a rest ?????? This is the same work and why if the mother is fine, she will rest and the child will be mentally and physically ill.
Be sure to rest)))) GOOD LUCK
аватар _Ivi_
The fact is that 98% of women do not think that "it is easy to be in an interesting position for 9 months, give birth, educate and not have a rest ??????", but simply know what it is ... In this topic We are not talking about children in general, but about a baby. Mom certainly can and should have a rest, but this must be done without harm to the child, she has finished feeding and alone or with her husband on vacation, and the child lives quietly in the environment familiar and necessary for him at this age with his grandmother or other relatives. This is if we are talking about mom, but we have another case here - a very tired father, who, mind you, did not go pregnant for 9 months, etc. the points. It doesn’t annoy me if a child suddenly starts crying somewhere, by no means, I just firmly believe that traveling with a baby is a huge harm to his health, and I know that any pediatrician will say the same. There is no need to cover up your desires with children and pass these desires off as caring for children, when the motivation is completely different.
аватар kuruoglu
Believe me, I consulted more than one pediatrician, and everyone says that there is nothing wrong with this, and even more so for health. Tell me how fresh air and water can harm a child ???
And my child, for example, does not stay with grandparents in his 2a years. So me and my family, because of sidelong glances in my direction, now do not rest
аватар koroshchenko
Fully agree with previous. recall, pediatricians approve, sea air and sea water. They say that if you travel in September, there is no big difference in air temperature. Of course, it is not recommended to go from winter to summer. And the pressure drops in flight are well tolerated by children. Unlike older people, their blood pressure is normal, and the fact that the ears are blocked is not fatal. And in general, how can you look askance at children and not love them, this is unnatural.
аватар abysfinks
I agree with HotLine on most points.
Another question is about parenting and parenting. If adults are adequate, then they will have no problems with children of any age. And if mothers come (I saw one of these in Adora Golf (Belek) about ten years ago) with fresh scars after plastic surgery under the boobs, flaunting topless on the beach at a time when her still disabled child (naked) descended from the wooden deck onto the hot sand and began first jump, and then falling, squirming as if in a frying pan, on the midday sand. Thanks to the German tourists who grabbed your baby and shoved him into the shower. And the mother only cursed, like: why did other people's aunts frighten the boy. And if such authors of the question are traveling with children (they rubbed a dozen posts), then there is only one answer for them - do not go! For adequate people, all roads are open.
аватар Pachok
"And in general, how can you look askance at children and not love them, it's unnatural."
It is unnatural to love strangers just because they are children.
LOVE relatives and friends, the rest are treated depending on their (other) behavior. If he (this other person) makes me uncomfortable with his behavior, how can I love him?
And the general indiscriminate love for babies of all modifications in some women is a hormonal phenomenon, and not evolutionary and certainly not humanistic.
аватар abysfinks
Children tolerate pressure drops in different ways. Some poop, my youngest child screamed at 3 years old about ears and snot (which was not there before) for almost the entire plane. Burnt with shame!!! Others don't care. They can change diapers not in the toilet, but right in the cabin, on the chair. What will it be like for you, sitting next to or behind? Little things? Everyone has been through this! You just need to be a little more respectful to others.
аватар koroshchenko
"for some women, the phenomenon is hormonal, and not evolutionary and certainly not humanistic"
Thanks to Pachok for the clinical psychological diagnosis. You can freely consult people not only on the tour site, but help people with mental problems and actively participate in medicine. forums.
"Yes-yes-yes! And definitely SISE!!!"
Thanks again for the clear answer to my question.
аватар Pachok
Contact.
аватар kuruoglu
and why did everyone get the idea that the author of this statement will not give a damn about his child and others. Even the fact that she writes here already indicates that she is collecting certain information and preparing for the trip. For example, I rummaged through half of the Internet in order to find out how to improve the condition of the child during the flight. And anyway, if the baby peeps, there is a "lover" of children who will say something about this ...
аватар 19062005
guys, what are you swearing about?! the person just asked whether or not to go with a baby! We don't know anything about the child's age. You can breastfeed up to 2 years! And 2 months and a year and a half are completely different things.
purely subjective - I would not go. although at one time I really, really wanted to relax. but if you already gave birth, then you can endure a couple of years. even for the sake of the child.
if you want to take a risk - go, anyway, no one will stop you if you decide. more positive, but be informed about all the negative points.
аватар IrinkaG
Wow! how many passions! and my answer was completely hidden, it seems that they didn’t offend anyone. and about this: "Name at least one nation besides the Russians, who so massively transport babies to another climatic zone with overloads on an airplane" Visit Italy, France, Nice, the Dominican Republic why exactly there - because we are there watched their rest . You will see a bunch of different nations there, not Russian at all. In the West, it is supposed to take your children everywhere and everywhere, and not shift the responsibility onto the shoulders of grandmothers. And everywhere there was only positive from their presence, or rather they took it for granted, there was definitely no negative, which cannot be said about some of the reviews here.
аватар bileg
Dear citizens! how we love not to disturb our peace, that we forgot about the main thing: BABY! Yes, foreigners take their babies everywhere and everywhere, but I personally have not seen them drastically change the climate when traveling with children. And this is ancient! I didn’t think that smart people don’t know that climate change is not desirable for a child under 2 years of age! Acclimatization of the baby takes at least 2 weeks, i.e. small children, if it is really necessary, should be taken out for at least a couple of months, so as not to cause an unnecessary "shake" of the body. In addition, hotels do not provide food for nursing mothers (you will find milk only for breakfast, for "diet food includes only chicken and eggs, i.e.
especially allergenic products, in case of a baby’s illness, you can’t self-medicate, and help at the hotel (if the child is sick) usually comes down to calling an ambulance and hospitalization to a local hospital (note that communication is only in Turkish), I don’t scare - all this went through my relatives with a 4-year-old grandson! An infant's stay in the open sun is generally not acceptable. In addition, mom will only get tired of such a rest. No one in the hotel will protect you from noise. If you are ready for all of the above, go ahead
аватар Lena_Elena
Oh, and the topic is being discussed, yeah. It's hard to disagree with many. But the conclusions, in my opinion, can be drawn in the same way. The comfort of others is just nothing compared to what the child and mother have to endure. It is strange in general that some pediatricians agree to change the climate before the age of three and in less than a month. You need to think about whether this is a good doctor at all. This is the first question that came to my mind after reading this. And how interesting the mother of an infant wants to relax with him is the second question. As a mother, I can say that up to a year it is with a child that there is no question of rest at all. This is not rest, but actually covering the child. If you need to feed him in time, put him to bed, carry him in a stroller or keep him constantly in your arms, this is not rest. You can rest when he at least starts digging the little bits himself or sits on a swing. I agree 100% with Pachok and Ivi and HotLine.
аватар _Ivi_
This topic is even more than what we are discussing here. It is clear to any person that it is harmful for the baby, that the mother certainly will not rest wherever she is, and at home, where everything is at hand, caring for the child is much easier than in hotels and any other places outside the home. That the likelihood that something unpleasant will happen to a baby on the road is much higher than with a child of conscious age, and that it is really difficult to get qualified medical help without spending a lot of money there. I really often visit Turkey, here are a few stories that happened before my eyes, which reinforce my conviction that not only with babies, but also with small children, young mothers and fathers do not need to go on vacation. The first story - a hotel, an adult pool, I'm on a sunbed, my daughter, then 12 years old swims in the pool.
A young couple comes - he, she, a child of 2 years old, occupy a sunbed nearby, he and she begin to undress, turning their backs to the child, at this time the baby jumps into the adult pool and goes to the bottom like a stone, my daughter, swimming like a fish in water from 4 years old, dives and takes out the baby, the "parents" do not see any of this. "Mom" turned around only when the daughter put the boy on the side of the pool
аватар _Ivi_
everything was so fast and so unexpected that I personally only managed to jump up from the sunbed, as I was reading and didn’t notice right away either. The reaction of "mom" was amazing, she only said "oh, why did you go there?" and that's it, no fear, no thanks, nothing. What if my daughter didn't see it? The second story is a hotel, a swimming pool, a boy of 4 is splashing in a circle in a hotel, his parents are shouting to him - you don’t swim for a long time, get out, and my dad and I will go to the room. The child - "Why are you?", the parents - "But we need it. We'll be there soon.", the child - "What will you do?" (the whole beach already understands why they are going). Leave, there are no minutes forty. All this time the child does not get out of the pool. Upon arrival - a scandal, why are you still in the pool, all blue and spanking the child ... A day later, they ran around the hotel looking for ear drops. So the point here is not that children annoy, interfere, that everyone is obliged to love them, the question here is deeper.
And as for foreign couples, they certainly travel with children, but they don’t change the climate so drastically, I agree with those who wrote this earlier, therefore in Turkey there are only unhealthy Russians with babies and young children.
аватар _Ivi_
And indeed, if your pediatrician approves the flight of an infant to Turkey, urgently change the pediatrician before he approves something else much more harmful ...
аватар kuruoglu
Ivi, I dare to disagree with you, such cases happen in the Motherland, it all depends on the parents. Why don't you see those mothers for whom the comfort of the child is in the 1st place, who will not move away from the pool while the child is there. For example, I consider myself a very attentive parent and do not want to rest without my child. Because he also likes to swim and play on the beach...
And at the expense of climate change, it is not significant in Turkey, especially if you go in August-September
аватар abysfinks
Adequate mothers, apparently like you, kuruoglu, are probably few!!! I saw one married couple, not ours, this year. They have a child up to a year old swimming pool under water across. The whole hotel (everything stopped near the pool) looked at this show. So, there were no problems with this kid at the hotel. I’ll say more: no one, except for those who were at the pool, knew about his presence at the hotel. But on the beach, 2 couples came, speaking Russian, with seven (7) children (for all). The mother seals were on the beach for no more than 40 minutes, i.e. until ALL children from 0 to 4-5 years old began to roar in unison. Who and Where, from the hotel or not, I don’t know, but the spectacle is still: 2 mothers loaded with screaming at children with a detachment of children with strollers dragging ALL their belongings to the beach and back. What kind of rest for mothers and children can we talk about in this case?
аватар 19062005
guys, where do you live if there is no climate change for you in September upon arrival from Turkey?! if you fly at the beginning of September, then okay, you can agree. we flew to the Dnieper twice on September 19, and twice it was +12! and rain with a windmill! and flew out of +30! Isn't this climate change? so we live in central Ukraine, and not in Yekaterinburg, for example, where it may well snow on September 19! and what, SUCH will be good for the baby ?!
PS. but by the way, why are we soaring here, I suppose the author of the question has been resting for a long time, and we are shaking the Internet with our indignations.
аватар 28081984
We live in Kyiv, and just a month ago we had +35 and we swam in full and the next day +15, isn't this a difference? and you don't have to go anywhere
аватар abysfinks
And we had the same weather in Moscow, with about the same difference. As a result, half a company of adult men and women fell down with tonsillitis and other colds. There was practically no one to work. And what about kids?
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