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Why isn't a negative review about Timo 5* paired with Pegasus published?
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2. When deciding to place a review, several factors are taken into account - objectivity, information content, adequacy, lack of advertising, the absence of obvious and hidden misconceptions, the presence of previous reviews, correct speech, etc.
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2. When deciding to place a review, several factors are taken into account - objectivity, information content, adequacy, lack of advertising, the absence of obvious and hidden misconceptions, the presence of previous reviews, correct speech, etc.
3. If you refuse to place a review, the reason for the refusal and the text of the review that we considered are sent.
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answered 12 years ago
Thank you for efficiency. So you read the review. Which of the following factors turned out to be decisive? I even showed you fake photos from Igor12 with the Utopia Hotel? If you "rely" on the reviews you have selected, then you will never be near them like mine, but its presence could be an impetus for similar reviews and then, perhaps, something can really change for the better for all of us from the USSR . Just as it has long since changed for real Europeans. And what does not correspond to objectivity, information content, adequacy, lack of advertising, lack of obvious and hidden delusions, the presence of previous reviews, correct speech, etc. It turns out that only and so on. To be honest, this is the fourth time we have used your information, but so unsuccessfully for the first time. Why are you so confused by my review. I do not want to think that the owners of Timo or,
Pegasus hotel guides are your sponsors or host. Or is everything so convincingly stated by me that it's hard to believe? Well, at least you yourself can check the information about the arrival of the Dutch from November 19 to 21 in Timo. Then draw conclusions or wait for more reviews. We won't go there, will the others? At the end of that season!?
Pegasus hotel guides are your sponsors or host. Or is everything so convincingly stated by me that it's hard to believe? Well, at least you yourself can check the information about the arrival of the Dutch from November 19 to 21 in Timo. Then draw conclusions or wait for more reviews. We won't go there, will the others? At the end of that season!?
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answered 12 years ago
By the way, I talked with a friend from the States on this topic. And it was he who convinced me to write a review after all the events. Although I convinced him that after a 20-year absence from his homeland, under the influence of the West, his brains turned in the wrong direction, that such tricks would not work in our country, that everything was bought and torn apart and no one cares. His arguments seemed more convincing that I think in old categories, but we have long had capitalism and competition, etc. Again, this is the same, etc. That's where the dog rummaged. It turns out that I'm right, but I don't understand what.
If you have taken up something useful, then hold on to it!
If you have taken up something useful, then hold on to it!
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answered 12 years ago
By the way, Igor12 has both Timo and Utopia in his albums. Moreover, the hotel that is called Timo in the review is called Utopia by Igor12 himself. And Timo is in another album, another hotel.
It seems that Igor12 just mixed up the album when he added photos to the review. I was like that too)))
Andriy_Co, what is your hysteria? Calmly point out the mistake, otherwise you are boiling in all branches with accusations against everyone in the world ...
It seems that Igor12 just mixed up the album when he added photos to the review. I was like that too)))
Andriy_Co, what is your hysteria? Calmly point out the mistake, otherwise you are boiling in all branches with accusations against everyone in the world ...
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answered 12 years ago
... it turns out that I'm right, but I didn't understand what (s)
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You better not say. That's where all your problems come from.
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You better not say. That's where all your problems come from.
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answered 12 years ago
Thank you hatinka and sigur62. Don't leave until Monday. Understand what the point is.
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answered 12 years ago
Since you insist so.
We do not save deleted reviews. Therefore, we cannot arrange a public analysis of your review.
But we can analyze your posts here.
1. "Why are you so embarrassed by my review."
Nothing bothers us. This is our job. Does the border guard who checks for a visa to cross the border get embarrassed?
- This is an example of inadequate understanding of the functions of moderation.
2. "I don't want to think that Timo's owners or Pegasus hotel guides are your sponsors or host."
If you don't want to, then don't think. Especially in print. Because before publicly accusing someone of something, you still need to think. Otherwise, the prosecutor may be in trouble. Formal and informal.
- This is an example of delusion and bias.
3. "It turns out that I'm right, but I didn't understand what.
If you have taken up something useful, then hold on to it!"
I don't even want to analyze it.
- This is an example of illiterate speech.
We do not save deleted reviews. Therefore, we cannot arrange a public analysis of your review.
But we can analyze your posts here.
1. "Why are you so embarrassed by my review."
Nothing bothers us. This is our job. Does the border guard who checks for a visa to cross the border get embarrassed?
- This is an example of inadequate understanding of the functions of moderation.
2. "I don't want to think that Timo's owners or Pegasus hotel guides are your sponsors or host."
If you don't want to, then don't think. Especially in print. Because before publicly accusing someone of something, you still need to think. Otherwise, the prosecutor may be in trouble. Formal and informal.
- This is an example of delusion and bias.
3. "It turns out that I'm right, but I didn't understand what.
If you have taken up something useful, then hold on to it!"
I don't even want to analyze it.
- This is an example of illiterate speech.
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answered 12 years ago
I think that the review also suffered from the same shortcomings.
Understand two simple things.
1. Our site is primarily for reading reviews, not for writing reviews. You can write reviews anywhere. But it is right to do it where these reviews are read. That's why we have such priorities.
That is why we fight for the usefulness of the content of the site, and not satisfy the needs of those who want to express their emotions.
You were denied a review. Take this as a fact, the expression of our position. We do not need to prove anything, accuse or arrange checks. Or reconsider your position or be realized on other sites.
Understand two simple things.
1. Our site is primarily for reading reviews, not for writing reviews. You can write reviews anywhere. But it is right to do it where these reviews are read. That's why we have such priorities.
That is why we fight for the usefulness of the content of the site, and not satisfy the needs of those who want to express their emotions.
You were denied a review. Take this as a fact, the expression of our position. We do not need to prove anything, accuse or arrange checks. Or reconsider your position or be realized on other sites.
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answered 12 years ago
2. We have tens of thousands of hotels and hundreds of thousands of reviews on our website. The only option for the successful (and we are successful) development of such a site is independence from the subjects of tourism activities. Any scheme like the one you describe ("Timo's owners or Pegasus hotel guides are your sponsors or host") will instantly bring the project to ruin. The whole project, and not just a branch of reviews on the Timo hotel or Pegasus.
Twist this scheme and you will understand that after the first payment for something, we get into the status of a blackmailed person.
One more note. You are answered here by people who are generally not interested in Timo's hotel. Take a look at their accounts and you will see that they are experts respected by us and site visitors. Therefore, writing to them - "Thank you, hatinka and sigur62. Don't leave until Monday" - is a delusion. Next.
By the way, we will accept any feedback from these people. Even negative for Timo :-).
Twist this scheme and you will understand that after the first payment for something, we get into the status of a blackmailed person.
One more note. You are answered here by people who are generally not interested in Timo's hotel. Take a look at their accounts and you will see that they are experts respected by us and site visitors. Therefore, writing to them - "Thank you, hatinka and sigur62. Don't leave until Monday" - is a delusion. Next.
By the way, we will accept any feedback from these people. Even negative for Timo :-).
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answered 12 years ago
We were in Timo with the whole family 2 years ago, there are NO negative emotions !!!!! Great hotel :) My review is. but under a different nickname - * great vacation *))) Here are claims to Pegasus on a charter - they brought it late and took it away early. stole 2 days!!! Didn't really interact with the guide.
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answered 12 years ago
This hotel was chosen as usual, based on reviews. And the reviews were surprisingly positive. There is a suspicion that they were written by the same guides who bred you at the hotel. The most interesting thing is that if you climb into the reviews 2 years ago, you will not see euphoria. It turns out that someone has tried over the past year and it is in the reviews. Moreover, there is either no photo, or not from Timo.
Timo 5* until some time it was Ottimo 4*, you can check it from the links, in the photos you can immediately see the blue edging on the facade.
http://hotels.poehalisnami.ua/turciya/alanya/ottimo-hotel
http://hotels.turizm.ru/3221/ref
Timo 5* until some time it was Ottimo 4*, you can check it from the links, in the photos you can immediately see the blue edging on the facade.
http://hotels.poehalisnami.ua/turciya/alanya/ottimo-hotel
http://hotels.turizm.ru/3221/ref
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answered 12 years ago
I continue. What changed? Probably the owner. Well, the number of stars. Now instead of “O T T I M O” we read “O Tel T I M O” above the entrance, but no one notices this. The building is beautiful, the rooms are standard, it is difficult to complain about the kitchen. The sea is more difficult. Let's forget about the pipes flowing into the sea, it's everywhere, but with a slight wave, the transparency of the water worsens, and all the pitfalls become invisible and pose a serious danger to the legs. But you can come to terms with this. But what is wrong? We are watching. The hotel has 90 percent guests from the depths of the Russian Federation. Therefore, bartenders do not want to part with alcohol, and therefore they will often have to go to the bar. From strong - vodka or gin and whiskey diluted with vodka, but this is normal vodka. Beer - ok. Dry wines - approx. So what's wrong anyway? We are looking at October 2011, the air during the day is up to +25, the water in the sea is up to +22, in the hotel the load is about 50% of which almost all are Russians and EVERYTHING IS OFF!
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answered 12 years ago
I continue, because it seems that no one read the review after all. Water in the indoor and children's pools +17. . . 18. Sauna and hammam are not included if the massage therapists did not have clients. Hill without water. There is no disco. Mattresses from sun loungers are not removed at night, so if it rains at night they are soaked with water and cold, the tennis table is in a constant puddle from climate technology, and the mesh is broken, there is a gym, but the simulators are turned off or do not work. And the culmination of everything is the hotel guide Irina, who diligently stays in the hotel all day and contemptuously turns away from tourists who did not want to give her dollars. At the same time, she will convince you that the exchange rate of the lira is 1.5 per dollar (instead of the real 1.8), and the phone card is 4 dollars (instead of 4 lira) and that the Turks will deceive you at every step and sell you bullshit, of course, except for those shops in which she will send and those tours that she will sell to you. But with this, everything is clear, this is her award.
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answered 12 years ago
And further. Something else is more interesting. She does not represent your interests in front of the hotel, but her own and the hotel's interests in front of you. She convincingly broadcasts to you that EVERYTHING should not be ON, but OFF, that even that unfortunate and only bottle of fresh water will not be put in your refrigerator until you yourself demand it, that there is a fine of 50 dollars for losing the key to the room, and rightly so, that if you accidentally closed the room with the key inside, then you will have to listen to the long moralizing of the concierge (they know Russian) before the room is opened to you, that visiting the sauna is only through a massage paid for by her, that before leaving after 12 days you must rent a room and forfeit the right to food and a bar, so you should sneak in a supply of food and water in a timely manner ...
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answered 12 years ago
And further. ... and that the winners will be those who have the kids with them, because if you cannot create a supply of food, then your child will take you bread from the restaurant, since only children are left with the rights of a guest (remember that in Turkey they are severely persecuted for stealing, but you will probably get a discount, given who you are) and all in the same vein. And what is surprising is that all the Russians who arrived listen with open mouths to these teachings and are ready to shush anyone who does not agree with the established regime, like: “Who is outraged there? Ukraine? You have become capricious, Ukraine. Rejoice at the sea and obey the adults, and if you don’t like it, why did you come here? Iron arguments! It is only later, after a few days, they come to the understanding that they somehow easily fell for all the tales of Irina and somehow stupidly parted with the dollars, but for what, it is not clear. Come on! We rest once a year, especially since we took them here for some reason, do not drag them back!
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answered 12 years ago
And further. Read and say that nothing surprising for the end of the season. What is the answer here? Indeed the End, but not really. There are moments of happiness. So do we. Arrival of real tourists. Not from the USSR, but from Europe. In short, the case brought a group from Holland. Some retirees. They hardly drink or smoke anymore. Swim only in the bathroom. They eat little. But for our brother it turned out to be a godsend: the water on the hill was not turned off for three days, the hammam and sauna were full of aromas and hot as expected, the water in the pool was 26 degrees, in the restaurant what you want and as much as you want. Too bad the Dutch left soon. Everything fell into place, in short, they do not appreciate Russia.
True, please note that during the stay of the Dutch in the lobby of the hotel there were also GUIDES OF THEIR TRAVEL COMPANY. This begs the question, was it not the merit of that travel agency? So Pegasus with his guides is obviously doing something wrong at Timo's hotel (I won't say about others under the roof of Pegasus, I don't know).
True, please note that during the stay of the Dutch in the lobby of the hotel there were also GUIDES OF THEIR TRAVEL COMPANY. This begs the question, was it not the merit of that travel agency? So Pegasus with his guides is obviously doing something wrong at Timo's hotel (I won't say about others under the roof of Pegasus, I don't know).
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answered 12 years ago
Penultimate. You can not ignore the animation. Normal and not for children (children only cartoons in the evenings). Yaba leader. A colorful Georgian, on whom unsatisfied girls peck, especially since his animation activities have a sexually vulgar touch. Well, here, as they say - if you don't like it, don't eat it. An interesting touch - only Dutch old women could affect the volume of musical accompaniment near the pool. The wishes of Russian-speaking ladies are ignored with vulgar smiles.
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answered 12 years ago
All. So, if you are from the cold outskirts of the Russian Federation, and you are only interested in the warm sea and normal food (the kitchen really was at its best in October 2011), and you have learned to communicate only in your native Russian language, and you are used to self-discipline, and your child without problematic, and free dollars are tight in your pocket, and you are attracted to the Georgians, and you don’t care about the perfidy of the guide, and on Russian channels you are only interested in news, and you can do without climate technology, and you are ready to pay 2 dollars for washing every time beach towel, and you like to leave the hotel before 12 noon, then "TIMO" ("OTTIMO") is your hotel. Just keep in mind that the numbering of rooms starts from the road, and the traffic there does not stop even at night, so if you like traffic noise, then this is for rooms less than 10. And if you like the smells of barbecue, then this is for even numbers after 30. Good luck! I wonder if this opus will benefit the hotel?
In fact, there are no special complaints about the Turks. People are working. In October, very tasty pomegranates for 1 - 1.5 dollars per kg. Mandarins, olives. The weather is mild. There are simply hotels where the tone is higher from the presence of a more demanding consumer.
In fact, there are no special complaints about the Turks. People are working. In October, very tasty pomegranates for 1 - 1.5 dollars per kg. Mandarins, olives. The weather is mild. There are simply hotels where the tone is higher from the presence of a more demanding consumer.
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answered 12 years ago
That's the whole review. If you were interested in reviews on a vacation site, then you definitely met reviews that are much worse. And we did interact with many vacationers with us. The more modest people paid an extra $40 per stay because they left at 20 local time. Vacationers with experience scored and appeared in the room by 16. We ourselves left at 8 in the morning, so the hotel jokes did not touch us. So the travel agency organized, although the contract clearly stated 9 days, 8 nights. That is why there is no comment on this subject. It is not clear why they cut off the bracelet at 12. In fact, some leave in the morning, others in the evening, just like they arrive. On average, one on one will come out. Therefore, everyone who has been on vacation more than once is amazed at such a "gesture" of the hotel. And the arrival of the Dutch is just another story with the transformation of the service at the hotel. This is what we're talking about! Despite the fact that the lion's share of vacationers are Russians, out of 5 animators 2 are Russian speakers and 1 Russian speaker,
the reception perfectly understands Russian - the hotel blossoms before our eyes with the arrival of Europeans. Yes, the tour is more expensive for them, but hardly for a hotel. That's what a respected moderator should think about!
the reception perfectly understands Russian - the hotel blossoms before our eyes with the arrival of Europeans. Yes, the tour is more expensive for them, but hardly for a hotel. That's what a respected moderator should think about!
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answered 12 years ago
Submitting a review for the first time. I did not find it where I expected, I asked the administrator a question. According to his answers, there was a suspicion that the review had not been read. Or is it just a technical problem? But here in the correspondence everything goes! It's all before your eyes! Placed in pieces above in the text, now I hope to see an objective reaction or a constructive solution. Maybe not everything is as bad as it immediately seemed?
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answered 12 years ago
a typical review of someone who is in Turkey for the first time ... eviction from any hotel until 12 o’clock can only be extended for money ... there are hotels where after 12 you will not be fed .. in general, it was necessary to write not about the hotel, but about a bad agency where they didn't tell you anything...
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answered 12 years ago
First, I apologize to the administrator. All the necessary recommendations from him today were found in the mail, which automatically fell into spam. Conclusions are made.
Secondly, especially for vltra, I do not know you, and you do the same about me. This is not a first time review, just a first review. I admit that in hotels 4 stars and below everything ends at 12-00, they just really haven’t been there. For 5 stars faced with this for the first time. If you read the review, you will see that a few years ago it was a four. We just figured it out only after our return, by chance, when, at the end of the trip, we included the word OTTIMO in the search. I'm not showing off and I'm not going to offend the users of the site. Make smart conclusions not about how many times someone has been where, but about how useful his information will be to you in the future. They didn’t believe it, the flag is in your hands, go there and debunk me with facts and videos. They will thank you.
Secondly, especially for vltra, I do not know you, and you do the same about me. This is not a first time review, just a first review. I admit that in hotels 4 stars and below everything ends at 12-00, they just really haven’t been there. For 5 stars faced with this for the first time. If you read the review, you will see that a few years ago it was a four. We just figured it out only after our return, by chance, when, at the end of the trip, we included the word OTTIMO in the search. I'm not showing off and I'm not going to offend the users of the site. Make smart conclusions not about how many times someone has been where, but about how useful his information will be to you in the future. They didn’t believe it, the flag is in your hands, go there and debunk me with facts and videos. They will thank you.
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answered 12 years ago
Since you have already quoted the review, we will also quote our notice of the reasons for not posting the review.
"1. We do not post all reviews. 2. We do not post reviews that contain links to competitive resources. 3. We do not post reviews that claim that we do not check reviews for reality. That is, your phrase " There is a suspicion that they were written by the same guides,
who cheat you in a hotel" is not true. It is impossible for us to place reviews from one computer, from one domain zone, from one account for one hotel. We pay special attention to reviews that are written, for example, about a hotel in Turkey from Turkey itself."
"1. We do not post all reviews. 2. We do not post reviews that contain links to competitive resources. 3. We do not post reviews that claim that we do not check reviews for reality. That is, your phrase " There is a suspicion that they were written by the same guides,
who cheat you in a hotel" is not true. It is impossible for us to place reviews from one computer, from one domain zone, from one account for one hotel. We pay special attention to reviews that are written, for example, about a hotel in Turkey from Turkey itself."
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answered 12 years ago
It's formal.
But informally - how can you start a review by blaming all the previous authors and our site together?
The problem is not with Timo, the problem is not with our website. The problem is that your opinion about the hotel did not coincide with the opinion of the other 35 authors. Now imagine - these are real tourists, Timo is not our owner.
Those. THERE ARE NO REASONS that you used to explain your dissenting opinion to yourself.
Then there are other REAL reasons.
Now it's formal again. We are not engaged in explanatory and educational work. We just don't post reviews. Reasons for our actions
But informally - how can you start a review by blaming all the previous authors and our site together?
The problem is not with Timo, the problem is not with our website. The problem is that your opinion about the hotel did not coincide with the opinion of the other 35 authors. Now imagine - these are real tourists, Timo is not our owner.
Those. THERE ARE NO REASONS that you used to explain your dissenting opinion to yourself.
Then there are other REAL reasons.
Now it's formal again. We are not engaged in explanatory and educational work. We just don't post reviews. Reasons for our actions
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answered 12 years ago
the fact is that even in fives (even in expensive ones) they are always evicted before 12 o'clock .... everyone knows this (the Germans and the British sit at the reception in all 5 * hotels), so the review seems not objective already on this point (as you can be dissatisfied with the eviction at 12 when everything is like this ????) for example, in order to avoid such an eviction, we always choose a morning flight on a plane
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answered 12 years ago
Do not be offended, but this is not about the release of the room at 12. We are aware that new tenants can expect to move in at 14. The thing is that in none of the 5-star hotels where we or our friends rested did they even stutter that any of the hotel services, except for staying in the room, would stop from 12-00 on the day of departure. I'm not arguing, for sure the way you write can be. Now we are convinced and we did not like it. Dot. Maybe you like it the other way around. It is possible that you and other shortcomings to your liking. Every man to his own taste. For example, you can really stay in Timo's room with a direct view of the sea and around the clock you will not be annoyed by the noise from the road. And someone will. Those who have noticed how noisy, but at the same time smooth road surface in Turkey, will understand me. The hotel fulfilled its main task of accommodation - food - sea in the same way as others, but now we will be more careful in the selection.
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answered 12 years ago
Administrator! In my penultimate message, I apologized specifically to you and once again I consider it necessary to draw your attention to the fact that the mail server regarded your messages as spam. I assume that due to the presence of graphic elements in the message itself, or maybe the message format itself. When forming my answer to you, this format has changed to the usual form. Today I discovered it. Had it not been such an incident, everything would have been all right. And I quoted the review, since our correspondence with you turned out to be available and participants intervened in it, who began to express judgments, not knowing the essence of my review.
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answered 12 years ago
"In fact, some leave in the morning, others in the evening, just as they arrive. On average, one for one will come out. Therefore, everyone who has been on vacation more than once is amazed at this "gesture" of the hotel." (end quote).
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Just those who have never been anywhere are amazed. Check-out at 12 noon is a worldwide practice. And to cut off or leave the bracelets before departure is only the good will of the hotelier.
And here's another from yours: "...before leaving after 12 noon, you must check out your room and forfeit the right to food and a bar, so you should sneak in a supply of food and water in a timely manner ..."
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On the sly, only an inveterate redneck carrying a supply of food and water, disgracing his fellow tribesmen. After such rednecks, one would like to recall judgmental school knowledge in German and the adult practice of Finnish shopping, just not to even look like such fellow countrymen.
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Just those who have never been anywhere are amazed. Check-out at 12 noon is a worldwide practice. And to cut off or leave the bracelets before departure is only the good will of the hotelier.
And here's another from yours: "...before leaving after 12 noon, you must check out your room and forfeit the right to food and a bar, so you should sneak in a supply of food and water in a timely manner ..."
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On the sly, only an inveterate redneck carrying a supply of food and water, disgracing his fellow tribesmen. After such rednecks, one would like to recall judgmental school knowledge in German and the adult practice of Finnish shopping, just not to even look like such fellow countrymen.
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answered 12 years ago
Note that I write about what I know and have seen. vltra is convinced that all 5* hotels behave the same way at 12 noon. So anyone who's seen better than vltra should now lash out at him with lies? Gentlemen, I did not come here to quarrel with you, but only to draw your attention. I understand the administrator, the honor of the uniform, but for the first time it was not worth putting it on display. As it turned out, it was still a technical problem. I didn’t even think that such a lawsuit would come out.
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answered 12 years ago
Listen guys! You really didn't read the review! You really didn't move in, what the hotel guide taught you to carry a supply of food! You did not understand that this teaching of the hotel guide aroused indignation only among us. That the rest took it as a good day. Oh you-and!
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