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Why is the moderator denying me a hotel review?
I registered on the TURPRAVDA website and want to post a negative review about the rest in this hotel. This is the second time I've received a rejection letter with explanations that 1) "we don't post first negative reviews". DO??? According to my observations, there are quite a lot of site users who have only 1 (ONE !!!) review and that one is negative. 2) "We have enough negative reviews for the HAPPY ELEGANT hotel." Sorry, my review complements the overall picture by points, is quite logical and specific. WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO PRINT IT? Sorry, in that case, maybe you should change the name of the site to TOUR-NOT-TRUTH? Why are YOU depriving tourists of information?
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аватар mr.vlad
an unpleasant situation ... it’s much more pleasant for me to re-read all the reviews before departure and not FLY in than only the “correct” ones ... in this situation, I get the money, not the moderator, and I don’t like it
аватар selly123
http://my.turpravda.com/selly123/gallery/22150/
Here are photos of the hotel, the review of which was denied by the moderator.
аватар sigur62
Yes, there are a lot of negative reviews for this hotel. And why then did you go there, you may be curious?
аватар selly123
Firstly, we arranged a last-minute tour - it is not always possible to accurately determine the time of the vacation, often at work they offer to go already "from tomorrow". This is a specificity, you can't get away from it. Secondly, I often fly to rest, simply trusting the tour operator and managers who offer this or that hotel. For several years in a row I took vouchers from friends and even in 3 stars you could have a normal rest. Well, simple hotels, everything happens, but there are no “internal” rooms anywhere, the food is also simple, but you can’t get poisoned, because everything is of high quality.
They just trusted Pegasus, but in vain.
аватар Stormovoy
in fact, what difference does it make how many reviews, if there is another negative one, so let a person write it .... the more reviews about hotels, the more chances people have to choose a decent hotel, and not throw money away ......
аватар mr.vlad
I don’t even mind reading a custom review ... the very presence of it in this hotel is already alarming ... incl. I am for access to any types and forms of reviews. The tasks of moderators should only be to control profanity and direct insults, and to hide impartial reviews on hotels is, believe me, too much already ... the site itself exists to minimize flights of CIS tourists!
аватар admin
Sorry, but we have other tasks.
Any serious project is created and managed in accordance with the approved positioning.
Our site, first of all, is not for writing reviews, but for reading reviews.
Those. the review should be useful to the READER of the reviews, and not give the writers the opportunity to voice their emotions. We do not want the site to turn into a complaint book. Especially in situations where the hotel has a lot of negative reviews, correctly written, informative.

If the review is too emotional, the ratings are inadequate (as in the case under consideration), the author writes in the review - "we have been on tours many times, but we have not seen this", then we calmly refuse to post such reviews. If you are an experienced tourist, you will receive the right to a negative assessment.
We never remove reviews from authors who have already posted multiple reviews on our site.
For example. Today, the following review was denied.
The person devoted the entire text of the review to the problems of obtaining a room with a sea view. At the same time, he rated "one - a dirty barn with inedible food" - for all categories of the hotel. And for this hotel there are already more than a hundred reviews, including fresh ones.
аватар admin
Several theses.
1. Reviews, comments, questions and answers are moderated = censored.
2. The forum is not moderated.
3. We do not guarantee that authors will post reviews.
4. It is better to communicate with the administration through the "help" button.
5. Public communication with the administration is best done in the appropriate forum thread.
аватар admin
Recent review example:
"Dear friends, beware of a bad holiday, choose another hotel, I have not seen a worse place in Turkey (I rested for the 5th time), it's not even about food (although this food made me sick every day, I didn't even dare to try local drinks at the hotel), youth there is nothing to do in the hotel, at 22.00 "everything turns off" and mostly Turks and Iranians rest in the hotel, the road to the beach really passes by the cemetery, and the most interesting thing, they settled us on the 5th floor, and they repeatedly climbed into our room through the ventilation ... they frightened me once ... (the hotel administration explained IT as the wind))) in general, they lived in fear ...
and a huge hello to the hotel guide from Natalie Tours, I will never forget this nit, I still need to look for such creatures ...
So friends, you decide where and how to relax, the taste and color, as they say ... BUT I WARNED YOU !!! Think a hundred times before going to this dump, even if it's very cheap!! Thank you for your attention.."
And the overall rating for the hotel - 1
Who but the author needs such reviews?
аватар admin
And a moderated negative review for the same hotel.
http://www.turpravda.com/tr/kemer/Magic_Sun_Hotel-h18754-r53928.html
аватар mr.vlad
thanks for the clear position of the moderator - there is logic in your words, but h.b. leave such reviews in the "unpublished" folder, rummaging through and in extreme negativity you can dig out a particle of truth. I do not quite agree with the concept of "Complaint book" ... Alas, but 70-75 percent of hotels are "three" and "four" in the direction of Turkey, Tunisia and Egypt are ready in advance to fall into the category of "non-living" - well, they are not WHITE and FLUFFY !!! But to open your eyes to the flaws of 5 stars, this is the God of tourism himself ordered. I wish the moderator to find a balanced position on everything passing through his hands reviews - here one person can save a whole board of tourists from flying in. Sincerely, Vlad.
аватар selly123
"Dear friends, beware of a bad holiday, choose another hotel, worse places in Turkey - THIS IS NOT MY REVIEW!!!
Your link "negative review for the SAME hotel" is not the right hotel!!! This is Kemer-Majik Sun wanted!!! I am writing about Alanya-Happy Elegant wanted.
Do you see the difference?
Excerpts from my review:
""The hotel has 24 family rooms and 25 suites. They are two-room suites with an area of ​​37-40 square meters: a larger room is designed for 2-3 people and has a balcony, a smaller room - it has a double bed and is actually "internal" - there is a window at the end of a small corridor measuring 2 square meters. m. Since the rooms each have a separate entrance, the doors between them are locked, and the first one goes as a double, the second - as a single or is provided to married couples. Total: 49 rooms in the hotel - uncomfortable for living, because they do not have a balcony and they do not get sunlight. The inconvenience is exacerbated by the fact that there is nowhere to dry towels and wet things,
as well as excellent audibility through the adjacent doors of these rooms.""
Has anyone given this information about the hotel?
"The hotel has 14 rooms overlooking the internal well of the building." That is, 73 out of 225 rooms - one third is generally inconvenient for relaxation!
аватар admin
selly123, pay attention, in your emotionality you not only lose objectivity, but also adequacy.
No one wrote that the quoted review belongs to you. Was written:
"Recent example of a review:" followed by quoting THIS FRESH REVIEW.
And the link was given to compare the quoted fresh review with the posted review for the same hotel.
We evaluate reviews as a whole, not in parts. Since it is posted in its entirety, we do not edit reviews.
But we can comment on the fragment you quoted. It's a very bold claim that all 49 rooms look exactly like you described and are not comfortable to live in. To put it mildly.
аватар mr.vlad
I HERE once wrote a parody of a negative review - I'm going to visit this cute hotel at the end of April, but already now I want to give birth to my ala-objective review in the spirit of one many-sided woodpecker, giving only 1-1-1 ratings to the hotel ... So, rushed, stray! I decided to spend this vacation with one of the most disgusting tour companies - MEGTEZPEGIYanexik. From the very beginning, everything went through the 5th point: they gave seats 13-w on the plane and I had to sit practically on the wing! cold ears (both)! WE HAVE LANDED... AT LEAST THERE WERE FLYING WITHOUT PROPER COMFORT, BUT AS A VIP PASSENGER WERE FIRST. ON THE 3rd HOUR THE HOTEL POSITION LIGHTS APPEARED IN A BLUE MIST. IT APPEARS THAT IT IS SO HIGH THAT EMPLOYEES LIGHT THE ANTI-LANDING LIGHTS FOR FLIGHTING LINERS.
THEY PROMISED TO SET UP IN THE WARMEST ROOM ON THE SUNNY SIDE, BUT THEY GAVE A PSEUDOP-PRESIDENTIAL IN THE DELUXE ZONE. IN ALL THE ROOMS ARE LIKE NUMBERS, AND I HAVE TO FROM THE PINK BEDROOM FOR 6 MINUTES TO THE BATHROOM, AND THERE TRY ANOTHER TO DEAL WITH THE ROOM IN THE 16 ROOM
аватар admin
There are other reasons for rejection.
Here is an example:
"Repairs haven't been done for a long time, even if you leave a dollar, shampoo and soap will be brought in. Mirrors, elevators, carpets, dirty bathroom, toilet without extractor hood, air conditioning is turned on according to the schedule, at 3 o'clock at night, you had to wake up and open the balcony when the air conditioner turned off, so every night, sunbeds, shuffled mattresses were not cleaned. after the rain, everything is wet through and through, in general, they are all some kind of greasy, dirty and torn beaches that didn’t re-sow in succumbing to the beach, the children piss at the stink for breakfast all the time, only feta cheese, heavily salted wine and vodka, they suck, so it’s better to buy watermelons with you, they didn’t give it even once melons 1 time and those green our long ones gave a hundred times sweeter apples pears plums a couple of times peach wi fi at the reception is such that the method and fasting was not loaded carpets are not washed anywhere in the baths everything worn out in the baths is not very clean for massage prepayment do not give TVs small redneck Russians they don’t like it because they behave according to boorish lusts, in general, the nation seems to be going to some kind of rabble and not people are just drunks and brawlers in general, a 5-star hotel does not pull if you have more excitement, then choose "
Etc. Not a single punctuation mark.
аватар mr.vlad
I'm going to visit this nice hotel at the end of April, but already now I want to give birth to my ala-objective review in the spirit of one many-faced woodpecker, giving only 1-1-1 ratings to the hotel ... So, it's off, stray! I decided to spend this vacation with one of the most disgusting tour companies - MEGTEZPEGIYanexik. From the very beginning, everything went through the 5th point: they gave seats 13-w on the plane and I had to sit practically on the wing! cold ears (both)! WE HAVE LANDED... AT LEAST THERE WERE FLYING WITHOUT PROPER COMFORT, BUT AS A VIP PASSENGER WERE FIRST. ON THE 3rd HOUR THE HOTEL POSITION LIGHTS APPEARED IN A BLUE MIST. IT APPEARS THAT IT IS SO HIGH THAT EMPLOYEES LIGHT THE ANTI-LANDING LIGHTS FOR FLIGHTING LINERS.
THEY PROMISED TO SET UP IN THE WARMEST ROOM ON THE SUNNY SIDE, BUT THEY GOT A PSEUDOP-PRESIDENTIAL IN THE DELUXE ZONE. IN ALL THE ROOMS ARE AS NUMBERS, AND I HAVE TO FROM THE PINK BEDROOM FOR 6 MINUTES TO THE BATHROOM, AND THERE TRY ANOTHER TO DEAL WITH THE ROOM IN THE 16 ROOM PAPER. I WILL NOT WISH SUCH A REST TO ANYONE - JUST TROUBLES! TA
аватар selly123
Excuse me, Mr. Admin, have you decided to complain about your fate on the forum? "Oh, how poor we are! Imagine WHAT we have to read, what tourists are inadequate, but illiterate come across. These pRAtivnye tourists dare to present some claims even to five-star hotels!!! Yes, and they write with asipka !!! Have pity on us, unfortunate admins!!!""
Are you not funny yourself?
Sorry, in my ABSOLUTELY LITERAL review (namely, a review, not comments and not in a question) there is not a drop of emotionality, just dry numbers. If they act on your brain in such a way that they seem screaming, this is quite natural. The numbers don't lie, unlike TRUE.
""But we can comment on the fragment you quoted. It's a very bold claim that all 49 rooms look exactly like you described and are not comfortable to live in. To put it mildly. "" The flag is in your hands! Would you like to have a rest in Turkey? Go by yourself, alone or with a friend, check if this is really the case.
Have a nice holiday! )))))))))))
аватар admin
Pay attention to your communication style:
- You attribute your words to others;
- use very emotional vocabulary;
- deny the obvious facts.
Of course, you have the right to do so. But not on our site. This is our kitchen, so we need to be treated with respect. Or don't visit our site.
Posted another negative review today.
HAPPY ELEGANT HOTEL
http://www.turpravda.com/tr/alanja/Happy_Elegant_Hotel-h16785-r60601.html
аватар mr.vlad
uv.admin, why can’t I drag the full version of the parody review here? Can’t go beyond the limit of 1200 characters?
аватар mr.vlad
SO, I STARTED SETTLING IN THE ROOM - I DEPLOYED THE WHOLE SUMMER CLOSET IN TWO ROOMS. YES! BARELY FIGHTING AWAY FROM THESE 3 INTRODUCTION CLEANERS IN THE ROOM - WELL THEY WON'T TEAR THE T-SHIRT, SO SPIONER SOMETHING! TO ANY RESTAURANT TO CHOOSE-SENT THEM THREE LETTERS-LASTED, IT SEEMS ... WELL, I DIDN'T THOUGHT, WELL, I DIDN'T IMAGINE. THE WALL, AND I, DAMNING, WITHOUT AN ICE-AXE! TIRED, BUT DOSHKANDYBAL IS SUCH... AND TO THE PEOPLE-CLOUDS!! !!! WELL I HAVE EVEN NOTHING TO EAT! CITIZENS, IT IS BETTER TO GO TO 2 STARS AND NOT TO FUCK THE GENE POOL! AND I CAN'T EVEN ASK - THESE TURKS DO NOT PET AT ALL IN OUR KITCHEN - I AM AND SO, AND THAT, AND THE BURNERS HAD ONLY A SALATIK WITH CHERNOBYL, SEE,
I DIDN'T FEEL THE TASTE, THE LANGUAGE DID NOT THAW UP TO THE END AFTER LANDING, WELL GOOD .. EVERYTHING THERE IS THE KITCHEN FOR A SOLID UNIT!!! VTYUHAT WINE CARD
аватар mr.vlad
Shaty, I thought, they say I don't distinguish red from the temptation! And she pested me the vinic in the dirty Schushkhakan, and healthy that Mordets fit together with the chopper !!! He got into five stars_da here and half a star smells: the preparation of the 3rd category! Appear meals leaned I'll walk around the territory ... Swimming pool on the pool, all by tomboy watery slides are littered with a green! And these slides are chosen in the color of the bracelet on the hand. Well, all-all is on, then you will be removed to the big-caliber one, and there such scales_chelinsk rests! Smoothly business rolled down - IT IS TIME TO STOP IN YOUR ROOM... AGAIN TO STOMP IN YOUR ROOM... I FOUND A HOTEL-ASKED THE WAY TO THE FIRST ENCOUNTER BATTLEMENT, AND THAT WITHOUT ANY GUNDEZH BROUGHT TO THE THRESHOLD AND LOOKING SO Pitifully-Plainingly IN THE EYES, THINKING I WOULD DISCOVER ME- HERE IS A BOLT FOR HIM AT 16 WITH A LEFT THREAD, AND NOT BAKSHISH, I DID NOT RUN ON A SUCKER - OURS DO NOT SPEECH THE BUBBLE, NOT EUROPEANS DO! IN GENERAL,
I BREAKED IT FULLY - EVEN WITH A PENDAL GIVE IT ACCELERATION!! AND IN SUCH A HIGH-MOUNTAIN HOTEL AND A Glider YOU CAN TAKE OFF FROM SUCH! EH! KNOW OURS!
CLEANING-WELL MY DEATH WISH! WELL, CHO-FUCKED I ON THE WHOLE 5th POINT AND CARRIED ME PASSING THE BLUE BEDROOMS TO THE PINK
аватар mr.vlad
I GOT UP, SELLING MY EYES, I AM ON THE BEACH ... AND THERE I CRIED THAT BEACH-CAT! CYPRUS, AND THE SIGNAL IS STILL TWITCHING! WELL, THE OPERATOR HOTEL SENT!!! AND AN ANIMATION WHAT LEFT_PEOPLE LAUGHS, AND IT DOES NOT EVEN PUNCH FOR ME ... THIS IS SO I SUFFERED ALL 2 WEEKS OF MY HOLIDAY. YOU WON'T WANT SUCH A NIGHTMARE TO THE ENEMY FROM THE TAMBOV VOLCHARYA!!!!!! AND ON THE CHECK-OUT, THE BLONDE DEAL WITH THE RECEPTION SLATTED ME SO DELICIOUSLY ABOUT THAT I STILL DO NOT WANT TO WRITE nasty things ABOUT THIS HOTEL ... AND SHE JUST LOOKED AT ME, AND I ROLLED THE GUBISCH, AND SHE THROWED ME SO THAT I WENT IN A RATE AND UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES COVERED THE WHOLE HOTEL WITH FECAES ... IF THE HOTEL FORGIVE ME, THEN I WILL RETURN IN THE IMAGE OF SCHWARTZ FROM THE 5 TERMINATOR. BEFORE MAY I WILL ALWAYS VISIT UTOPIA AND WRITE ALREADY ON MY OWN NAME AN ABSOLUTELY TRUE REVIEW, POSSIBLE IT WILL BE USEFUL TO SUBSEQUENT TOURISTS.
ALL THE BEST TO YOUR READING MY WRITING, THE FIRST TIME THAT HAPPENED ME TO LIKE THIS
аватар mr.vlad
here, only. dividing into several. parts, my virtual review on "Utopia" Alania got here .... on this I propose to close the debate on Elegance. "Everyone understood everything and we will never go there. Thanks to everyone who took part in the dispute! 2 weeks for me to fly for the 105th time, including soon there will be a new review, which, I hope, will be useful to someone ... though, I almost never make mistakes, but suddenly !!?
аватар sigur62
I threw this review on Happy Elegant Hotel for reading by "roulette players". Right here.
http://www.turpravda.com/tr/question-20097.html
аватар selly123
""Pay attention to your communication style:
- You attribute your words to others;
- use very emotional vocabulary;
- you deny the obvious facts.
Sorry, Mr. Admin, these are your allegations, they are not based on anything.
As for you, pay attention to your communication style:
- the desire to denigrate the opponent, accuse him of inadequacy and thus belittle the significance of the negative review (this is expressed in the fact that in this question it was completely unnecessary to give examples of incorrect reviews, this gives the impression to those reading the thread that my review is similar to - illiterate and emotional, but nevertheless it is not so),
- comment on my review, questioning the information contained in it (as far as I understand, you have never been to this hotel, so on what basis can you claim that the facts I have given do not take place?),
- unsubstantiated assertion
that I deny the obvious facts (it is YOU who deny them - do not blame the sick head on a healthy one).
It's great that you posted another negative review about the HAPPY ELEGANT HOTEL. He adequately describes the situation.
аватар selly123
According to the tourist bysya2010_yandex.ru, they occupied just such an adjacent two-room suite, the description of which I gave. But they were lucky that they were given exactly 2 rooms, and, as she writes, they did not use the second room. A week earlier, when we were resting, there was a big arrival of tourists and the hotel administration settled in exactly the way I indicated: they closed the adjacent door and each room was provided as a separate room, one of which was standard, and the second was uncomfortable and without a balcony. By the way, she did not tell how they got out of the situation when "they were given a room with separate beds, and my friend and I got a double bed"?
By the way, about: "But not on the territory of our site. This is our kitchen." Well, ban me, what is it to you? And cook for yourself what you want here.
аватар admin
To mr.vlad
It is assumed that there will be no reviews in the Q&A thread. So the limit is 1200.
to selly123 - You offered, we banned. For disrespectful attitude to the administration of the site.
It makes no sense now to explain something to you. Just one example.
You wrote:
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Excuse me, Mr. Admin, have you decided to complain about your fate on the forum? "Oh, how poor we are! Imagine WHAT we have to read, *** Have pity on us, unfortunate admins!!!"
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How does is called? We call it "- You attribute your words to others;"
Etc.
аватар mr.vlad
it's a bit disappointing that a relatively peacefully unfolding discussion led to such a sad end ... we all lacked the endurance and tact to defend our positions within the bounds of decency ... where, if not on this site, should we all pass on the experience of failed tours ?! I actively I've been hanging around the planet since 1992 and how many mistakes I could have made if I hadn't listened to other people's reviews?! for a freedom-loving person, the fact of banning is tantamount to a knee blow on the gene pool / this is for men / ... I imagine with horror a similar picture as applied to the weaker sex. With obvious respect!
аватар selly123
Not banned...)))
Was it correct of you to post examples of other people's reviews here? If you wanted to criticize me specifically, then you would have given excerpts from my review.
Otherwise, this is the impression you created with your own words. This is not an attribution, it's just an interlinear translation of your comments.
аватар selly123
Well! After reviewing the last negative review you indicated on the hotel, I note that it almost completely confirms and repeats my conclusion. Therefore, I do not insist on posting my review, as it is already redundant.
Thank you for the recommendations in the preparation of reviews: for the future I will take them into account.
Goodbye!
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