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we are planning a trip on 21.09-28.09 with a 10-month-old baby. very disturbing comments about the intestinal virus. believe or not? Cancel flight or go on vacation?
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аватар Alex888
It's worth the trip, especially if it's for a week =)
Just keep an eye on the baby...
аватар ledoboy
My family and I have just returned from Botanik. There is no infection there at all, and it cannot be at the level of cleanliness that is observed in the hotel. This whole story unfolded before my very eyes. Several children were indeed hospitalized for one or two days at a local hospital with suspected infection. But as it turned out later, these children simply from the very arrival, from morning to night, were under the scorching sun, and naturally the children's body could not withstand such an overload. The children began to vomit, the temperature rose sharply (these are just the symptoms of heat and sunstroke). This was originally taken for a viral infection.
I can assure you, we went as two families and both with small children, if you don't mess with the sun, everything will be fine. We have traveled to Turkey many times and stayed in various good hotels, but this one is the best.
The hotel is really wonderful, which you can see for yourself immediately upon arrival, looking through the book of reviews, which is located immediately at the reception.
Have a good rest and discard all doubts, your choice of hotel fell on one of the best.
аватар anton-123
I called the hotel today. Spoke with reception and guest relations. According to the hotel, now they are doing well, 2 weeks ago there were several cases of illness, they did an analysis of the water from the pools, an analysis of the food, and nothing was found. The staff was also sick, which refutes the version of water. Nobody is sick now.
аватар zeugma
We rested in Botanica 4 times, this time from 08/04/10 to 08/13/10 was the last. Of course, they will not tell you there that they have a wand, because people will stop going there, and they will suffer huge losses. These children did not overheat in the sun, and not only children got sick, adults too. And it was not 2-3 cases, but at least 15 (we were told in the hospital in Side), and then they increased. It’s a pity that this all ruined the rest: we didn’t swim in the pool, we also selectively ate food, we refused vegetables, because we didn’t know what it was from. Nearby at the Dolphin Hotel (the same owner), they confirmed to us that quarantine was in Botanica, so we were not allowed to walk around their territory. In general, think better than later, God forbid, disentangle.
аватар anton-123
zeugma, why is this the last time? An outbreak can happen to any hotel. One and a half thousand people live compactly, bathe in one place, eat in one room, the temperature is +40. There will be no infection next year, and the likelihood of a new outbreak will be the same as in any other five. So why is this the last time? Was there anything else that you really didn't like this time that you didn't have on previous visits?
аватар zeugma
To be honest, the level of the hotel has fallen: the food has become much worse (once I got a sour watermelon), not as diverse as it used to be, the rooms require a long renovation (the hotel is over 30 years old, after all), mold has appeared in the rooms in places, that nobody cleans up. In the "a la carte" restaurants, it also got worse, less variety (the fish crab sticks were stale), the staff is not so attentive. When we got sick, the doctor prescribed us pills that were supposed to be brought from the pharmacy, at the reception they first forgot to give the pharmacy a prescription, then they said that the medicines would be at 22.00, we came up, but they weren’t there yet, they said to come back at 12 at night, we we asked them to bring us to the room (since it is especially undesirable to walk with a troy), to which we were told that they do not have such a service, they asked us to at least call when the lectures were available, but they didn’t do that either. The Botanist has deteriorated, unfortunately.
There were practically no sunbeds free by the sea - they were all occupied from 6, probably, in the morning until the evening (people left towels, water, etc.) This is not a vacation, if you have to think about how to find a sunbed by the sea, the same the situation with the tables in the main restaurant.
аватар zeugma
Rest in this hotel is not cheap, but there are a lot of tourists there (most of them are permanent, there are those who have been in the hotel 12 times !!!!!). Therefore, because of such a crowd of people, they stopped trying hard. And then there’s this wand ... They shouldn’t have set people up like that, they would have said that there is something, so that people would just be more careful somewhere (indeed, it happens, one could understand), but in fact there are a lot not only the children fell ill, those who got off with t-swarm and disorder were lucky, but the majority were with t-swarm 40, vomiting, disorder, which they could not reach the ambulance on their own! In any case, I wish you all a good rest and take care of yourself!
аватар anton-123
zeugma, thanks for the responses.
It's a pity .. we looked at the nerd for several years and wanted to go, it was not possible, we went to other cheaper fives.
And how did you pay for medicines, doctor visits, delivery?
аватар zeugma
The hotel has a doctor. Temperature and pressure are measured free of charge. They give an injection and the pills that they have available only if they have insurance (they write down all the data, call the representative of the insurance company). We needed pills for the disorder, temperature, the doctor prescribed them for us, said to bring them to the reception, and there they faxed the prescription to the pharmacy. We paid for the medicines ourselves (for two people, 3 packs of some Turkish pills each paid $ 38), they gave a check from the pharmacy, they said that in Ukraine we could apply to an insurance company that would reimburse us everything. But we, due to the fact that we were already “treated” at home with our medicines, which the doctor prescribed after the tests, and because it was just a shame to be disappointed in our favorite hotel, we did not apply to any insurance company (and the amount is relatively small ).
When we were taken by ambulance to a hospital in Side with my grandmother's high blood pressure, the translator advised us to give the doctor 20-30 dollars in hand so that they would not write out a check (according to him, otherwise it would cost 100-200 dollars). We did just that (grandmother had her blood pressure taken, she was given a pill and an electrocardiogram was done). Ambulance drove for free :)
аватар zeugma
In no case do I dissuade anyone from going there - the hotel is not bad, but ... I know what it was like and what it is now. Now for the money you can find better, I think.
аватар zeugma
Yes, by the way, we have dishes for breakfast, such as salads, and other pre-cooked dishes are cooked in the evening (this year we saw it with our own eyes). I'm not sure they have a place to properly store that amount of food.
аватар zeugma
BUT! It's a real paradise for kids! animation works well with them in the evenings, there is a good amusement park, pools, slides (but because of this stick during my vacation, my parents did not let children into the pool). So consider the pros and cons and decide.
аватар anton-123
zeugma, okay, thanks again, we'll go, we'll see for ourselves, I'll write a review.
I don't understand the beach. There are pictures with sand, there are pictures with small pebbles, there are with large ones. Everyone writes that the pebbles are terrible. Then where are the pictures with the sand on the surf line?
Near Botanik towards Alanya there is Conti Park. We vacationed there a couple of times. There are also pebbles and sand. But, there are not so many reviews with abuse of the beach ... I don’t understand anything ..
аватар zeugma
There are large pebbles on the beach, at the entrance to the sea - large mixed with small ones, and again large in the sea itself. Entering the sea is very painful, and getting out is even more painful (especially if there are waves). My advice: buy each family member such special rubber slippers for entering the sea. We didn't buy it and regretted it. Have a nice holiday!
аватар anton-123
I read about the sunbeds, which must be borrowed from 6 in the morning. That's how much I don't go to Turkey, every time I read about it. And we never had such problems. We like to sleep, we have breakfast at the end of breakfast, by 11 o'clock on the beach. Yes, not immediately, but always found sunbeds. And there were always reviews about "6 in the morning, there's no other way."
The question is - if, indeed, it turns out that there is no other way - what do you think - is it possible to agree with the whipboy to keep a place for us? Didn't pay attention, are they new every day or the same ones?
And yet - in principle we always take a view of the sea. We have such a fad - we stand on the balcony and see the sea. Which is better - Rosa or Park? Will the smell and noise of the restaurant bother you on the upper floors of the park? It is not very clear / visible on the pictures - will the restaurant interfere if you take a room closer to the end of the Park, which faces the sea? As I understand it, the restaurant is "in the corner", right?
аватар zeugma
The beachboy is the same there, you can try to negotiate - it seems like a normal guy, we talked with him (he speaks Russian well). We lived in Rosa and for some reason we were always afraid to live in the Park (because of the restaurant). In Rosa there are rooms with a sea view, arrange for them to give you. I read in the reviews that you can negotiate for 10-20 dollars, but we didn’t do that, since the view of the sea doesn’t matter to us, the main thing was not in the Park, not in the building near the Park (I don’t remember the name) and not on the 1st floor :)
аватар zeugma
The Park building is located entirely under the restaurant.
аватар stiv34
"rest in botany"
Hello. I came to the site by chance and decided to see how things are going in Botanica. WE had a family vacation at the hotel from the end of July to the beginning of August 2010. Briefly about the main thing. The hotel is super, you can safely put 5- (minus because of the beach, stones like in Sochi). However, the epidemic that took place at that time (believe it or not really) spoiled the whole impression about the rest, beer, fresh juices, amusement park ice cream, in short, everything (even red fish and well-made purchases in the store, agitators in which walk along the path where they give out towels). I am very glad if the hotel administration coped with this disaster (the disease is expressed in the vomit of just walking people for no reason, temperature under 40, diarrhea). I don't know what it is - rotovirus or E. coli. However, on our departure, about 100 people were in the hospital and the hotel staff was already sick!
They say all kaka started with a pool with dolphins, and then it went further - hence the large amount of bleach in the pools and the nightly cleaning of the paths with the same chemical substance, which did not save even those who arrived later and knowing everything swam only in the sea. Okay, I'll end on the bad. About the good in short - everything is super, I'm such a service,
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