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Questions to the residents of Cherkasy (or those who know the history of the city): interested in information related to stratonauta
Questions to the residents of Cherkasy (or those who know the history of the city): interested in information related to stratonauta
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аватар dusik1981
In particular, the following information is required 1. Has the building been preserved,
where he was born and lived, and is there a plaque?
2 Has the gymnasium building survived, and what is in it now?
3 What objects, perhaps organizations in the city bear the name of this tester? Street, alley, square, square .......? Is there a monument ..... ????
аватар ollennka
Wow, I didn't even know what that was. Everyone knows about airships, I personally have not heard about stratospheric balloons.
аватар dusik1981
ollennka. Tutachki 90% of tourists do not know a lot of interesting things that are near them, give them abroad. And the fact that in that foreign country there are copies of the fact that they have the originals under their noses and for free, they are not interested in giving them "Paris" (this is about Croisier and his sculpture "Angel with a Child" in the Louvre, then a copy, however, or rather, a second copy, and in Sumy you can see the first one "free of charge, that is, for nothing")
But so...
The question is valid if it makes sense to spend money on a trip to Cherkasy, or not.
Just do not need to suggest that there is something to see "banality" is not interested.
аватар ollennka
))))) Well, I'm definitely not going to offer anything to see, I was not there. On the map, a very small town without any marks about the sights.
And what is there to spend? Judging by the map, only 200 km from Kyiv, you can drive one day by car even without spending the night. Weekend tour.
аватар dusik1981
Well, 400 km or 30 liters of gasoline to spend roughly 30 euros for just that plus the time spent in vain. it is necessary to visit the grave of those who wrote these lines. If I die, bury me
I'm at the grave
Among the wide steppe
In Ukraine, dear,
To deer wide fields,
And the Dnieper, and the cliffs
It was seen, it was heard,
How roaring roars.
How to bear from Ukraine
In the blue sea
The blood of the enemy .. ", and hear the roar, the roar.
Therefore, the answer to the question is needed, not offtopic.
аватар ollennka
A voracious machine... Well, since there are plans to go anyway, it's not so important what's with the memorial plaques. Have a great trip, especially since it will be very relevant to the approaching day of cosmonautics.
Do you already have green leaves on the trees? We still have everything naked, there is no mood even to arrange a weekend tour for now (((.
аватар dusik1981
ollennka, it doesn’t matter to you, it matters to me, I don’t want to waste time. I have a specific goal, and therefore I ask, but probably in vain. There is probably more interest for "deserved seals" I'm talking about package tourism, but I'm not interested.
аватар ollennka
Stop, so you wrote that you will go anyway)).
Yes, I also think that TurPravda is more tailored for lovers of seal recreation, it is unlikely that there are many experts on stratonautics here.
аватар dusik1981
ollennka quote me where I wrote that I will go anyway.
аватар dusik1981
ollennka in the question it was written that information is needed from the residents of Cherkasy, or those who know the history of the city well. At least the residents of the city know if there is a Ukrainian street, or maybe there is a monument, if they say that there is such a street and where to be, then it’s not a problem to find out further. I wrote to the city hall of Cherkassy, ​​but there, according to the law, it takes from 14 to 30 days to wait for an answer.
аватар ollennka
"The city for Ukraine is average, there is something to see, especially if no one has ever been there. You need to go"
Or is this not a phrase about Cherkasy?
аватар dusik1981
ollennka phrase about Cherkassy, ​​but there you forgot to continue the phrase in full, it sounded like this: "You need to go, for me personally, at least once in my life, a Ukrainian, you need to visit the grave of who wrote these lines." Therefore, it was never written about the fact that I would go there, and that I was not there. It's just banal stuff like "Garden of Roses" "Temple of the Lotus" "Dvorshcha Shcherbina" everything is "inspected and ticked" now there is, the goal, if there is something to see, otherwise go out like with Malevich in the Sumy region, well, there after examining Belopolye, at least mural, if that picture can be called made, but the building was not brought into the entourage.
аватар ollennka
Why did you forget? I just chose the necessary, so as not to overload the answer.)))
I'll also listen with interest to what the locals have to say about the sights.
аватар dusik1981
ollennka is not necessary, but manipulation. Let's wait, maybe there are connoisseurs of the city of Cherkassy, ​​but no, we'll go to Parkhomovka to watch the work of Picasso.
аватар Elenka08
Something I doubt that a crowd of residents of the city of Cherkasy will gather now
аватар Elenka08
It's better not to eat Picasso
аватар dusik1981
Elenka08 Picasso, let's not eat, but just have a bite)) after all, there are Picasso's originals in Ukraine in the public domain.
Well, do not get enough, let's wait for the mayor's office to answer. And then we will think where and how.
аватар ollennka
Gotta believe it))
аватар dusik1981
ollennka faith, according to an old joke dies before hope))
Well, let's not spam. There is an answer on the merits, write, no, there is a personal for another.
аватар ollennka
I have already written to you, thank you. What did you see as spam? I do not advertise or promote anything, but I also became interested in the issue of stratonautics and subscribed to the question. I believe and hope.
аватар dusik1981
ollennka let's call them offtopic, there will be no difference, there is no answer to the question. And in person, I answered you. Once interested, I have different publics and resources, and ordinary libraries, no one has canceled, there is enough information for public use, I'm interested in specifics.
аватар oksanashewchenko
It seems to me that you are confusing the city of Cherkasy with the village of Cherkasy in the Donetsk region. According to Wikipedia, Ukrainian was born in Cherkasy (Stalino). And Stalino is the old name of Donetsk.
Therefore, Ukrainian has nothing to do with the city of Cherkasy. Accordingly, there are no memorable places in honor of him. You intrigued me so much that I, as a Cherkasy woman, was not surprised and climbed into the bowels of Google.
аватар dusik1981
oksanashewchenko I think I do not confuse anything, I do not really like the wiki, but a specialist climbed there and that's what he was born Born in 1903
Cherkasy, Kyiv province, Russian Empire
here is the link https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%97%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA % D0% B8% D0% B9_% D0% AF% D0% BA% D1% 96% D0% B2_% D0% 93% D1% 80% D0% B8% D0% B3% D0% BE% D1% 80% D0 % BE% D0% B2% D0% B8% D1% 87
as for Donetsk (here is also the link https://ua.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%BA) And in the Donetsk region is a settlement of Cherkasy, but it is not connected with the person who interests me. 81% D1% 81% D0% BA% D0% BE% D0% B5 _ (% D0% 94% D0% BE% D0% BD% D0% B5% D1% 86% D0% BA% D0% B0% D1% 8F__ % D0% BE% D0% B1% D0% BB% D0% B0% D1% 81% D1% 82% D1% 8C)
And in Ukraine, no settlement named Cherkasy was renamed Stalin. BD% D0% BE _ (% D0% B7% D0% BD% D0% B0% D1% 87% D0% B5% D0%
аватар dusik1981
oksanashewchenko and give a link to the wiki where you found Cherkasy, Donetsk region, where the Ukrainian pvan was born, maybe we have different wikis.?
аватар oksanashewchenko
Well, look. Quote from your link
Yakiv Hryhorovych Ukrainsky (* 1903 Cherkasy— † July 18, 1938, Stalin) was a Soviet designer and stratographer.
Isn't Stalin just mentioned there? And Stalin, this is Donetsk.
аватар oksanashewchenko
So the monument to the stratonauts is located in the Donetsk region
https://mistaua.com/Conspicuousness/Monuments/Monument_to Stratonauts/588/?setcity=710
So it makes no sense to look for traces of Ukrainian in Cherkasy
аватар dusik1981
oksanashewchenko, can you read? If not, the first date is the place of birth, the second is the place of death.
Therefore, read the same wiki where Mr. Ukrainian was born, it is clearly written "Cherkasy, Kiev province, the Russian Empire " Donets was never part of the Kiev province. And Yuzivka, the current Donets was part of the Ekaterinoslav province.
So show me where it is written in the wiki that Mr. Ukrainian was born in Yuzivka.?
аватар dusik1981
oksanashewchenko, dear there is information about this person, he was born in Cherkasy, everything else the regional library said later to provide information., Very "spoiled phone came out " library, (information in the local history department is available).
So, without confusing anything, I will wait for confirmation of what the library staff will say.
So explore your city.
аватар oksanashewchenko
Well, when you get interesting information, share. I will study with you
аватар dusik1981
"Alas and ah " now in the city there is nothing dedicated to Mr. Ukrainian, maybe my request to do something, and maybe not. do not want the city to earn on tourism.
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