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Riddle: According to the new decree of the government of Ukraine, residents of Ukraine enter Ukraine with a 48-hour negative test, and residents of all other countries with a 72-hour
Try to unravel the trick of Ukrainian officials. Make assumptions. My solution will be published in three days. Thanks!
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аватар Vika284
Foreigners bring a negative test certificate valid for 72 hours,
citizens of Ukraine or with a certificate of 48 hours or 14 days of self-isolation or do a test upon arrival in Ukraine and are not in isolation
аватар ollennka
Indeed, a mystery ... It would be more logical to oblige your people to take the test upon arrival, and not in advance. And so other countries will earn on tests.
аватар Andrey111
You can do this upon arrival, then if the result is negative, the self-isolation will stop.
аватар ollennka
Economically, it would be more profitable not to give a choice, but simply to oblige everyone upon arrival.)))
аватар Andrey111
So everything will be done upon arrival. Who wants to take a test abroad, and in case of a positive result, stay there in quarantine.
аватар ollennka
Well then the logic is clear.
аватар klichko
They're trying to restrict entry. In Kyiv, there is simply a dominance of foreigners who have fled from countries with the most severe restrictions. And most of it is definitely not for the duing business. Ukraine for them sweet freedom on the ball
And in essence, the term of the decision is not limited? Who remembers how long the last time such rules were in effect?
аватар Slav_na
you will have time in 48 hours fic. which means - at home, only at home! ibonefik to spend over the hill.
but for foreigners - it’s right, there’s nothing to bring evil spirits to us, come with a certificate!
=Question: Will permanent residents be considered foreigners or near-citizens?
аватар klichko
Permanent residence, of course, is already ours
Spoke with an agent. They were informed from above that ours, returning from the green areas, would not be subjected to violence by Dia. Tourists are already returning under the decree, today everything will become clear. Zhdems TTT
аватар ziskin
klichko interesting, i.e. will not require to install "Vdoma"? Find out if you write
аватар Vika284
I am glad that at least they managed to relax and return before the adoption of this decision, and a very costly bonus for relatives (parents with 2 children aged 13 and 15) who return from Sharm on Sunday
аватар vezha2
I am also very glad that I managed to have a good rest before such an innovation, it seems that there are reservations for those returning from the green zones, I am waiting for confirmation of the information until the evening
аватар ziskin
They say that those who arrived today from Egypt were installed
аватар antonua
A colleague from Egypt has just arrived in Boryspil - everyone is forced to put “Vdoma” before passport control, only after that they are allowed to pass through passport control.
аватар nadin65
From the forum today:
tourists were warned and preferred to register in advance in the Vdoma application, and thanks to this they did not stay at the airport. “Now they need to quickly pass the test”
But citizens of other countries who fly on vacation through Boryspil (Belarusians, Moldovans), according to the changed rules, must pass the test before returning to Ukraine. At the time of crossing the border, it must not be "older" than 72 hours. This option is available in many hotels. But the cost of $150 per person was an embarrassment as it was an unforeseen expense.
аватар ollennka
Antonua, And if a person does not have a smartphone, do they send back or give a smartphone?
аватар antonua
"If a person does not have a smartphone, do they send back or give a smartphone as a gift?"
according to the law - they must be taken for observation, self-isolation - only with a smartphone and an installed application.
in fact - xs, will they bother.
аватар nadin65
"in fact - xs, will they bother" -
Will. Remember already!
They locked the families in a hotel in Kyiv, forgot the name. But the conditions are bad and the cost for this hotel was very high. Naturally, people had to pay for themselves. There was no normal food, you can not go out. Some managed to escape. Complained, but...
Probably better to have a phone with an app.
аватар ollennka
Is it possible to delete the app after passport control?
аватар antonua
"There will be. Remember it was already!"
here I don't know. on the one hand - it seems like yes, on the other hand - now the flow will be more than in the spring of last year.
"Can you delete the app after passport control?"
there you enter only the phone number, passport number, full name and that's it. there is no link to your address.
my opinion is that it is possible. but you need to measure your strength and a possible fine.
аватар tschingiss
To be honest, I did not fly planes during the epidemic. But I know that in order to get on a plane, you need to have a recent negative test. And this means that when arriving in Ukraine, many passengers still do not fully spend 48 or 72 hours of the test. So they should be considered healthy by default. How about such an attitude?
аватар antonua
"But I know you have to have a recent negative test to get on a plane."
this is absolutely not true.
аватар tschingiss
"It's absolutely not true." But as? Can you explain?
аватар antonua
no test is needed to "get on a plane" (except in a few countries).
test is required upon arrival. and if you are a citizen of Ukraine, then you can replace it with self-isolation and a 24-hour delay in the test.
аватар Vika284
When last year, also in the summer, there was such a situation familiar to them who themselves were from Odessa, and the tour to Sharm was where the air Kyiv was, they were given a delay of more than a day
аватар Elenka08
nadin65, I remember. There, the price of accommodation was equal to the presidential suite in a luxury hotel
аватар Iren48
Delay 48 hours, sort of. The travel agent told me. My kids got in. In Egypt now.
аватар vezha2
tschingiss,
"It's absolutely not true." But as? Can you explain?
The test was needed no later than 72 hours for a flight to Egypt, it was always looked at at the airport of departure. From Egypt, everyone flew in without tests (until March 24), now the test will need to be done upon arrival or go to 14-day self-isolation
аватар tschingiss
Thank you all for your participation. Unfortunately, there was not a single concrete answer to the RIDDLE. The question was posed like this: "WHY do residents of Ukraine enter Ukraine with a 48-hour negative test, and residents of all other countries - with a 72-hour one?" In other words, HOW DO THE RESIDENTS OF UKRAINE DIFFER FROM THE RESIDENTS OF OTHER COUNTRIES? WHY THE RIGHTS OF UKRAINIANS ARE INFRINGED FOR A WHOLE DAY? I believe that this is a trick of the Ukrainian officials and I can guess what their interest is. Can you guess?
аватар antonua
Ukrainians have the same 72 hours - 48 hours before entering the territory of Ukraine and 24 hours after (for passing the test and removing from self-isolation). more flexible condition.
the government can simply keep foreigners out of the country, but it cannot keep its citizens out.
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