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WHAT DOCUMENTS DOES A SINGLE MOTHER UKRINA NEED TO EXPORT A CHILD TO UZBEKISTAN
I AM A CITIZEN OF UKRAINE. TEMPORARILY LIVING IN MOSCOW. AND I WANT TO GO TO UZBEKISTAN. WITH A LITTLE CHILD. I AM A SINGLE MOTHER. IN THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF THE CHILD IN THE FATHER COUNT, THE FATHER UNDER MY SURNAME IS RECORDED.
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Usually, for a trip abroad, a certificate from the registry office is required stating that the child officially does not have a father instead of permission from the second parent to take the child abroad. In relation to Uzbekistan, there may be the same requirements. The registry office is most likely at the place of registration, try asking at the place of registration.
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answered 12 years ago
Proof that you are single. When registering a child, the certificate must contain information that the father is recorded from the words of the mother.
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answered 12 years ago
All this, if you leave Ukraine, and in any direction. Border guards of other countries are not interested. They are certificates of Ukrainian registry offices to this place. To cross the Russian-Uzbek border, you only need a document for a child (inscribed in your passport or children's travel card).
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answered 12 years ago
And that in Ukraine the father is recorded in the birth certificate from the words of the mother? In Russia, this is different. And a single mother is a woman whose child has a dash in the column of the father.
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answered 12 years ago
Yes. Recorded according to the mother, in the event that the mother is a loner.
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answered 12 years ago
The question is about Ukraine. In Ukraine, there is no dash in the certificate, and a certificate is given separately, which is recorded from the words of the mother.
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answered 12 years ago
But I’ll bet that you only need a passport, for export you always need either a notarized permission from the second parent, or, as in this case, a certificate that was recorded according to the mother or a death certificate of the second parent or deprivation of rights. Just with a passport, even if a child is entered or has his own travel document, according to the rules, they can wrap it up.
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answered 12 years ago
Neighing)))
But how is it all the same: a single mother - and a father in the metric. She is a loner and a loner in Africa, that is, one.
Although Ukraine is not Africa ...
But how is it all the same: a single mother - and a father in the metric. She is a loner and a loner in Africa, that is, one.
Although Ukraine is not Africa ...
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answered 12 years ago
Ukraine is not Africa, but when you face such problems, you want to cry. A single mother must prove that she is single.
I'm not alone, but I know this problem "from the inside" so to speak.
I'm not alone, but I know this problem "from the inside" so to speak.
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answered 12 years ago
And why laugh here, there are all sorts of situations, I think it’s right that they don’t write a dash. Because there can always be found, to put it mildly, not quite smart people who want to laugh, there’s no more reason (((((And a loner doesn’t have to prove anything, you just need to take the documents that were issued in ZANS and go calmly. This is often much easier and easier than seeking permission to export from some stupid fathers who simply do not give permission to export, and here the topic is raised in questions.
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answered 12 years ago
That's the thing that needs to be proven. Try without evidence to issue a single allowance or a subsidy, not to mention for the export of a child. And many "stupid" fathers recognize their children and, indeed, without notarial consent, simply nowhere. And the design of the allowance is generally a song that concerns the internal social policy of the state.
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answered 12 years ago
Why so much ambition, my dear? Because the loners are so crazy, nothing surprising. The funny thing is that there is no point in writing down the father if he is not there. A clean document is a clean conscience. so don't freak out like that.
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answered 12 years ago
She worked in the labor department for more than one year (not just as a clerk), it just hurt! I remember it like a bad dream.
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answered 12 years ago
Well... so about it and conversation. Why write a father who is not there, or who did his simple job and dumped? Are there really such obdurate views in Ukraine that fatherlessness is considered a vice? Did not know.
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answered 12 years ago
You can't do without doping here! We need to create a new thread to discuss this issue.
In short, the father is recorded from the words of the mother with all the ensuing consequences (certificates, etc.) In a word, HORRIBLE!
In short, the father is recorded from the words of the mother with all the ensuing consequences (certificates, etc.) In a word, HORRIBLE!
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answered 12 years ago
I agree that the topic has gone in the wrong direction. just started a discussion of what is not clear. What are the ensuing consequences, what references do you mean? I don’t know, and where the hardened views have to do with it, everything is just more civilized, in my opinion. This is better than a dash, but how interesting is it in Russia, a child without a patronymic, just do it? And there is enough ignorance, it can be seen from the answers, I agree that horror. People lack elementary tact. But this is a topic for another conversation, I also never thought that someone could discuss this in our time, but there were))))
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answered 12 years ago
Well, there were also you, my dear)))
Conclusion: to write down the father "from the words of the mother" (end of quote) is the Stone Age. This is when it’s dark in the cave, who knows who came up there, who left ...
I really didn’t know that it was possible like this, from the words ... This is how you can pin someone, write a bunch of children on him)))
Conclusion: to write down the father "from the words of the mother" (end of quote) is the Stone Age. This is when it’s dark in the cave, who knows who came up there, who left ...
I really didn’t know that it was possible like this, from the words ... This is how you can pin someone, write a bunch of children on him)))
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answered 12 years ago
sigur62, You are mistaken. Recording from the words of the mother is a normal modern practice.
Look at the problem from the other side. There are no children without fathers. So, put dashes in the certificate if the father could not (sometimes for quite objective reasons) or did not want to? These are the dashes - this is the Stone Age.
In the end, a child until the age of majority may not see his birth certificate. So for him and those around him, the name of the father is voiced by the mother, that is, the principle "from the words of the mother" actually works. A formal procedure must correspond to the actual situation in modern society.
Look at the problem from the other side. There are no children without fathers. So, put dashes in the certificate if the father could not (sometimes for quite objective reasons) or did not want to? These are the dashes - this is the Stone Age.
In the end, a child until the age of majority may not see his birth certificate. So for him and those around him, the name of the father is voiced by the mother, that is, the principle "from the words of the mother" actually works. A formal procedure must correspond to the actual situation in modern society.
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answered 12 years ago
sigur62, + cartoon!
I consider it wild to write down the father as the father from the words of the mother. In Russia, this procedure is much more civilized. If the woman is not married, then the child is recorded in her last name, and if the father has recognized his new status, then a document is issued acknowledging paternity and another certificate indicating the mother and father. And, in fact, there is worldly wisdom if a married woman becomes pregnant and this pregnancy is undesirable, the husband is to blame, if an unmarried woman becomes pregnant, she herself is to blame. An exception, in my opinion, is the case when there is no husband and is not expected, but there is a very strong desire to give birth to a baby so that there is a dear little man nearby. So in this case, do not care about the opinion of everyone and everything.
I consider it wild to write down the father as the father from the words of the mother. In Russia, this procedure is much more civilized. If the woman is not married, then the child is recorded in her last name, and if the father has recognized his new status, then a document is issued acknowledging paternity and another certificate indicating the mother and father. And, in fact, there is worldly wisdom if a married woman becomes pregnant and this pregnancy is undesirable, the husband is to blame, if an unmarried woman becomes pregnant, she herself is to blame. An exception, in my opinion, is the case when there is no husband and is not expected, but there is a very strong desire to give birth to a baby so that there is a dear little man nearby. So in this case, do not care about the opinion of everyone and everything.
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answered 12 years ago
sent2008, and you are wrong. In Ukraine, you can do everything that you wrote. But there is another option - according to the mother.
Understand that this is enough for the state. If the father does not want it, then this is a personal matter for the mother. Like choosing a name, surname, religion, etc. It has no legal implications. That is why a certificate is required to cross the border, because this is already a legal action.
This is a normal civil norm. There are no children without a biological father. In addition to the well-known biblical case.
In Russia, for example, a mother can travel abroad with her child without the father's notarial permission. If the father does not object, then the mother herself has the right to decide. This is also a normal civil norm. In Ukraine, this has not yet been reached - the civil code is old. Many suffer, even those whose father's name is written in the testimony not from the mother's words.
There are just stalemate cases. The father is in prison, on the run, for several years there is no information, does not want to communicate, in another legal marriage. But he is.
Understand that this is enough for the state. If the father does not want it, then this is a personal matter for the mother. Like choosing a name, surname, religion, etc. It has no legal implications. That is why a certificate is required to cross the border, because this is already a legal action.
This is a normal civil norm. There are no children without a biological father. In addition to the well-known biblical case.
In Russia, for example, a mother can travel abroad with her child without the father's notarial permission. If the father does not object, then the mother herself has the right to decide. This is also a normal civil norm. In Ukraine, this has not yet been reached - the civil code is old. Many suffer, even those whose father's name is written in the testimony not from the mother's words.
There are just stalemate cases. The father is in prison, on the run, for several years there is no information, does not want to communicate, in another legal marriage. But he is.
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answered 12 years ago
HotLine, and what am I doing wrong? I indicated the process of obtaining a birth certificate in the Russian Federation. How the same process takes place in Ukraine was not known to me before communication at this forum.
Your quote: "There are no children without a biological father." Physiology and paperwork, in accordance with the legislative acts of a given state, things are very far from each other. How do fathers who donate sperm fit into your scheme?
And regarding the export of children outside the Russian Federation, you, not knowing the legislation in this country and this area, decide that everything is easy and simple. In visa-free countries, yes, it is enough to present a document (s) confirming the degree of kinship, and in the Schengen countries and a number of other countries, it is not possible to do this without the notarized permission of the father. If the father is actually absent (he is in prison and other "good reasons", then there is a certain procedure for resolving this issue.
But the quote "if the father is in another legal marriage," then here you, dear, obviously mixed everything into a common pile. Another marriage of the father and parental rights to the child from the first marriage are things that are in no way connected with each other. People should remain both in marriage and after it.
Your quote: "There are no children without a biological father." Physiology and paperwork, in accordance with the legislative acts of a given state, things are very far from each other. How do fathers who donate sperm fit into your scheme?
And regarding the export of children outside the Russian Federation, you, not knowing the legislation in this country and this area, decide that everything is easy and simple. In visa-free countries, yes, it is enough to present a document (s) confirming the degree of kinship, and in the Schengen countries and a number of other countries, it is not possible to do this without the notarized permission of the father. If the father is actually absent (he is in prison and other "good reasons", then there is a certain procedure for resolving this issue.
But the quote "if the father is in another legal marriage," then here you, dear, obviously mixed everything into a common pile. Another marriage of the father and parental rights to the child from the first marriage are things that are in no way connected with each other. People should remain both in marriage and after it.
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answered 12 years ago
I don't like it when people attribute things to me that I didn't say.
1. I said that recording from the words of the mother is a normal modern norm. At the same time, he opposed those who consider it savagery.
2. I did not discuss visa procedures. This is a completely different topic. This procedure is external in relation to the legal field of Russia or Ukraine.
3. Any questions can be resolved. The problem is cost and time. Sometimes it takes years to resolve an issue. And as we know, the price of a solution should not exceed the cost of the issue itself. So the situation turns out - it is possible to solve, but the efforts are incommensurable with the question itself. This is what I call a stalemate. I can give a lot of examples.
4. I did not write - "in the second marriage", I wrote - "in another legal marriage." These are different things.
Tip - if you oppose someone, then carefully read the posts. There you, for example, will see that "respected" is you. And I - "respected". It is also useful to look into the opponent's account. This will prevent you from putting yourself in a difficult situation.
And so you talked to yourself. Some words were attributed to me, and then they were opposed. Moreover, they talked with some woman. And they talked about visas to a person who knows much more about them than you do.
Sorry for the harshness.
1. I said that recording from the words of the mother is a normal modern norm. At the same time, he opposed those who consider it savagery.
2. I did not discuss visa procedures. This is a completely different topic. This procedure is external in relation to the legal field of Russia or Ukraine.
3. Any questions can be resolved. The problem is cost and time. Sometimes it takes years to resolve an issue. And as we know, the price of a solution should not exceed the cost of the issue itself. So the situation turns out - it is possible to solve, but the efforts are incommensurable with the question itself. This is what I call a stalemate. I can give a lot of examples.
4. I did not write - "in the second marriage", I wrote - "in another legal marriage." These are different things.
Tip - if you oppose someone, then carefully read the posts. There you, for example, will see that "respected" is you. And I - "respected". It is also useful to look into the opponent's account. This will prevent you from putting yourself in a difficult situation.
And so you talked to yourself. Some words were attributed to me, and then they were opposed. Moreover, they talked with some woman. And they talked about visas to a person who knows much more about them than you do.
Sorry for the harshness.
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answered 12 years ago
Yes, comrade, you are confusing soft with warm. Sorry, I didn't see that you were martyr. Well, they yelled, it felt better and OK.
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answered 12 years ago
I read it. Didn't see any arguments or questions. We will assume that you have revised your assessment of the record from the words of the mother.
Try not to communicate with your opponent invented by you theses. Then the discussion will be fruitful and there will be no need to apologize.
Try not to communicate with your opponent invented by you theses. Then the discussion will be fruitful and there will be no need to apologize.
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answered 12 years ago
HotLine, and you are a funny person! Thanks for the advice, given in an ultimatum form - what would I do without them. You are just amazing at turning things around. If you have problems with self-esteem, these are your problems. Do not teach life to those who do not need it. I consider the record of the father from the words of the mother to be a legal gap in your country. You don’t have to bother answering, it’s better to teach your wife how to cook cabbage soup.
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answered 12 years ago
With all due respect to you, HotLine, I unconditionally agree with sent2008. Recording from words - bullshit. This rule will sooner or later disappear from the legislative acts of your country. No options.
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answered 12 years ago
Thanks for the respect. It's mutual for me. But it's not about me.
Open your mind and you will understand that this is normal.
as an additional argument. You here slightly trampled on the Ukrainian norm, believing that these are our Ukrainian bells and whistles. So here you are wrong.
I quote:
"Family Code of the Russian Federation:
Article 51
3. If a child is born to an unmarried mother, in the absence of a joint application of the parents or in the absence of a court decision on establishing paternity, the surname of the child's father in the birth register is recorded by the surname of the mother, the name and patronymic of the father of the child - at her direction.
Pretty much the same. There is certificate No. 25 in the registry offices of the Russian Federation stating that the information about the father was recorded from the words of the mother.
Yes, in Ukraine you can write a surname. But this does not change the essence. In your Russian Federation, your mother can change her last name, for example, to "Putin", and write Putin V.V. the father of his child. The article above does this. Just one step longer to do what we can do in one step. Well, why these formalities?
Open your mind and you will understand that this is normal.
as an additional argument. You here slightly trampled on the Ukrainian norm, believing that these are our Ukrainian bells and whistles. So here you are wrong.
I quote:
"Family Code of the Russian Federation:
Article 51
3. If a child is born to an unmarried mother, in the absence of a joint application of the parents or in the absence of a court decision on establishing paternity, the surname of the child's father in the birth register is recorded by the surname of the mother, the name and patronymic of the father of the child - at her direction.
Pretty much the same. There is certificate No. 25 in the registry offices of the Russian Federation stating that the information about the father was recorded from the words of the mother.
Yes, in Ukraine you can write a surname. But this does not change the essence. In your Russian Federation, your mother can change her last name, for example, to "Putin", and write Putin V.V. the father of his child. The article above does this. Just one step longer to do what we can do in one step. Well, why these formalities?
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answered 12 years ago
so what is needed for a single mother to leave Ukraine? I am a single mother, but there is no certificate :(
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answered 12 years ago
I want to raise the issue again. I have already been everywhere and called everywhere, where can I get a certificate that I am a single mother, that I am the only parent responsible for this particular child? yes, the father was recorded from the words of the mother, they told me "great, we understood that he was recorded from your words, but what prevents you from bringing permission from him to leave the child abroad?" that is, the wording that "the father is recorded from the words of the mother" does not say anything to our French friends, what's the difference how it was recorded, take permission from him
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