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I need to go to Russia from Ukraine next week, is it possible without a passport or not?
I need to go to Russia from Ukraine next week, is it possible without a passport or not?
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аватар staruha_izergil
Similar discussion here:
http://www.turpravda.com/ua/question-48401.html
аватар Apyatka
possible without a passport
аватар Blakpolice.com.
It is possible without a passport if you are going to cross the border illegally on foot !!!
аватар Apyatka
Blakpolice.com., where did you get that? Have you personally tried to cross the Ukraine-Russia border with a civil passport and were not allowed to enter? Have you seen and can you show us the law on crossing the Russian border only from abroad? Do you have other reasons to talk about "crossing the border illegally"?
I am surprised by the desire of people to speak out on issues in which they understand nothing.
аватар Natassha_Kiev
Only with a passport. As far as I remember, this requirement has appeared since January of this year.
аватар Blakpolice.com.
DOCUMENTS FOR CROSSING THE STATE BORDER BY CITIZENS OF UKRAINE
passport of a citizen of Ukraine to travel abroad
diplomatic passport
service passport
travel document of the child
seafarer's identity card
crew member ID
According to the resolution of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine of January 30, 2015 № 23
http://dpsu.gov.ua/ua/about/news/news_6119.htm
аватар Blakpolice.com.
Prove otherwise...
аватар Apyatka
AGREEMENT
January 16, 1997
BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND THE GOVERNMENT OF UKRAINE ON VISA FREE TRAVEL FOR CITIZENS OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AND UKRAINE
Appendix 2
SCROLL
DOCUMENTS OF CITIZENS OF UKRAINE FOR ENTRY, DEPARTURE, STAY
AND MOVEMENT IN THE TERRITORY OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
1. Passport of a citizen of Ukraine
2. Passport of a citizen of Ukraine for traveling abroad
3. Diplomatic passport
4. Service passport
5. Travel document of the child (permitting travel abroad)
6. Birth certificate for children under the age of 16 (with an insert confirming that the child has Ukrainian citizenship)
7. Seafarer's identity card (if there is a ship's list or an extract from it)
8. Identity card for return to Ukraine (only for return to Ukraine)
9. Certificate (flight certificate) of an aircraft crew member
The website of the Russian Embassy in Ukraine http://embrus.org.ua/ru/visas_rus refers to this agreement
аватар Apyatka
I will add for those who doubt how it works in practice - my daughter left for Russia 2 weeks ago with a Ukrainian civil passport. She lost her passport when she was in Russia, so she traveled to Ukraine also with a Ukrainian civil passport.
аватар Blakpolice.com.
Don't take risks!!!
аватар ollennka
And what is the risk? The agreement is valid, citizens of Ukraine come to us with internal passports.
аватар agent_borabora
Only abroad for a year now.
аватар elenako
Yes, you can with an internal passport. No problem.
аватар ollennka
Yes, this is us, since March 1 we can only visit you abroad, do not confuse))))
аватар Apyatka
Russians, yes, only with a passport can enter. And then, "they can enter" is loudly said) They may not enter. You need to have a notarized invitation and some unimaginable amount for Ukraine for living. But, even if these conditions are met, there is no guarantee that they will be allowed to enter.
Ukrainians can travel with an internal passport to Russia. Anyone who says otherwise is simply out of touch.
аватар Blakpolice.com.
Some kind of nonsense turns out Ukraine passes on a foreign passport and Russia on an internal one. Who will give a link to the derzhprikordonsluzhby or the latest regulatory document.
аватар elenako
Blackpolice.com , this is not nonsense. Nonsense is when the residents of Luhansk, in order to come to Ukraine, need to take a special permit for this and spend many hours in line at checkpoints.
You can go to Russia with a foreign passport, but they also let you through with an internal one.
Even if a child was traveling with one of the parents, no one demanded a notarized permission to leave from the other parent. But this concerned Luhansk residents.
аватар Blakpolice.com.
I just want to say "Everything is done for the people" !!!
аватар prosto2000
I didn't understand you guys.
Apyatka - regularly met colleagues and relatives from Russia in Zhuliany. While flying. No notarized invitations and some unimaginable for Ukraine amounts for living. In general, no additional documents, except for a passport. NO ONE AT ALL. Moreover, before arrival, everyone calls and hysteria - what kind of docks are needed? meet, please, suddenly they won't let us in! I call these persistent delusions that are deliberately set in motion and propagated by the likes of Apyatka.
I didn't understand that Blakpolice.com didn't like it. Everyone travels to us with passports. Why should there be exceptions for Russians? There is no longer the USSR, the CIS, the customs union, there are no agreements on independence and territorial integrity, and so on and so forth. ALL. RF itself launched other rules. According to what docks they let them in - it's their right.
аватар Apyatka
prosto2000 don't call me "like Apyatka"
There are cases when they did not let you in, even if you personally do not know about them. The decision to let in / not let in is made by the Ukrainian border guard at the airport in Kyiv. And they don't let me. Often. There is a separate topic on the Vinsky forum where those who were not allowed to write write. Vinsky, for example, was not allowed. He describes it quite vividly.
аватар prosto2000
elenako, I don’t understand what the Lugansk people don’t like. Let's not discuss politics. Let's discuss the usual legal procedures. They consider themselves some kind of SPECIAL republic with a SPECIAL system of power, law and control. Accordingly, SPECIAL rules for entry into Ukraine have been introduced for them. They defended themselves from Bandera, now Bandera defend themselves from separatists. This is fine. This is a natural consequence of the previous actions that Luhansk residents themselves did.
Take an interest in how the borders of Abkhazia, the Transnistrian Republic, and Crimea intersect. There is a cause, there is a consequence. If the consequence is nonsense, then the same is the reason, the consequence of which is indignant Luhansk residents. Or it is not necessary to consider the consequence as nonsense. Or you don't have to be angry. As a human being, I feel sorry for those who experience difficulties when entering Ukraine. But I understand and support the need for such a procedure.
аватар prosto2000
Apyatka, do you know these people personally? Do you trust journalists? Vinsky has long been a "journalist" by the nature of his earnings.
I repeat once again - I PERSONALLY met a lot of Russians. Such is my job and such are my relatives. The last to arrive in October was a cousin. I left yesterday by train. From no one, never demanded anything other than a passport. Most of all, the nephew of military age was afraid, who arrived in the midst of antagonism. Got off the first flight from the airport. I didn't even get to the parking lot.
And stable delusions just become stable. Someone launches, and then others distribute like you - somewhere, someone, sometime ... Or do you think that there are no stable delusions?
аватар Apyatka
Of course, there are persistent misconceptions)
Question in the subject - can I go to Russia with a Ukrainian passport? The answer is you can. Other questions to discuss here are offtopic.
But the question is spinning on the tongue - are you sure that everyone is allowed in, and the crowds of "suffering" in Vinsky are all fakes?)
аватар Blakpolice.com.
prosto2000 often welcomes guests from Russia.
I met my father, 71 years old. My father was born Ukrainian. And we want to miss such cases. Read on social networks!
аватар prosto2000
First of all, like any normal person, I focus on personal experience. This allows me to critically evaluate fairy tales like "until some very senior on the phone gave the go-ahead." But even this phrase contradicts Apyatka's phrase about "a crowd of" suffering "without exception" . If we take the case of Blakpolice.com for granted, then we have one detained elderly person from one flight and that one was missed. Without any additional documents.
We just look at the situation without prejudice and fakes immediately become visible.
аватар lyudmila-s-p2
I am a citizen of Ukraine, and my husband is a Russian, and besides, he (fortunately) is still very, very far from 60 years old. In previous years, he entered Ukraine presenting a marriage certificate with me (a citizen of Ukraine), and a year ago, problems arose when we entered Ukraine by Moscow-Kyiv train. We were immediately warned by border guards on the train that men under the age of 60 were not allowed through. There were two such married couples in the car. The train was delayed because of our two couples, a whole crowd of border guards gathered in our car and could not decide whether to let our husbands through or not. In the end, they agreed to let us through as an exception, and only because our husbands were traveling with us. Recently, my husband had to enter Ukraine again, we called the border service and they told us to issue an invitation for my husband to enter Ukraine. We did just that. An invitation was issued at the notary, where all the data of the husband's passport and mine (of the inviting party) are indicated. Making such an invitation is quick, easy and simple. It costs 250 hryvnia.
аватар ollennka
The question was about entering Russia from Ukraine, and not vice versa.
аватар lyudmila-s-p2
And to this day I enter Russia from Ukraine WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS ON THE UKRAINIAN PASSPORT. I go often, and this year I have already gone three times. I have a passport, but I never showed it to anyone when entering Russia. I fill out the immigration form. And nothing more! I travel by train and bus. Just fill out the migration card on the Ukrainian passport, as before. In terms of the entry of Ukrainian citizens into the territory of the Russian Federation, nothing has changed yet, only from November 1, 2015, the stay of Ukrainians in Russia was limited to 90 days out of 180 days. This means that out of 6 months you can stay in Russia for 3 months, you want all 90 days at once, but you want to break these 90 days into several trips. It is your right. No documents are required when crossing the Russian border, except for a Ukrainian passport. I am familiar with this issue not on the Internet and not on word of mouth, but in practice. I drive constantly. I hope that I answered completely and understandably.
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