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Has anyone bought a tour on Otpusk.UA?
Has anyone bought a tour on Otpusk.UA?
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14 subscribers  • asked 2019-08-165 years ago
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аватар klichko
HotLine may have misunderstood the train of thought and drawn false conclusions. Just in case, sorry. Sincerely
аватар HotLine
"Clog up the brain" - this is feminine. We men can't feel it.
But your argumentation has changed - before it was "seen in the errors." So leave.ua partially rehabilitated.
We, men, evaluate mechanisms by their efficiency and effectiveness.
I dare to suggest that "fire bullshit" is photographs and other beautiful things that are on vacation. And there is no selection that does not "fuck up" you. Such a pragmatic selection is also in the vacation. It is called a tourscanner and is intended for professional use. We use it in our work (I wrote about it above). Like many other TAs.
But you initiated the topic - who has a better engine. So who has the potentially better engine? Someone with only a professional search? Or who has the most visited end-consumer site and professional search?
аватар HotLine
You don't need to apologize to me. Just remember that you are communicating in a public place. Everything should be clear and not ambiguous.
An expert should share experience, and not condescendingly throw remarks from the pedestal of his experience.
My insight you could not offend. We have several dozens of regular tourists who, like you, "go here several times a year." But this is not more than 5% of the tours that we arrange. Which roughly corresponds to the general statistics of the market. For me, these 5% have approximately the same social and client portrait. Regardless - from 95 or not from 95. Egi or not only Egi. Sunrise or budget options.
аватар Slav_na
...and let's get back to the topic, shall we?..
oh, men, what are you all boys!
аватар moy_contakt
So, there's really nothing to go back to. "Did anyone buy a tour for Otpusk.UA?" - the answer is no, because this resource is for finding a tour, but you need to buy through TA.
аватар klichko
"vacation.ua partially rehabilitated."
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Let's write it down in full. I could get into the "change of prices" and it just didn't suit me
"So who has the potential better engine?"
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Looking for someone. And let's not get better, but more convenient and faster, depending on the requirements. I only look at specific hotels. On vacation, you are tormented by clicking and flipping until you find what you need (during this time the price will change)) With two clicks I go into the price tag of the hotel, easily drive in the source code and voila. The same 8 MOTs in one list of price increases with a margin of at least 2 months. Time saving at times. The problem asks, why should I complicate my life?
аватар selik1954
I’m even embarrassed to ask, so which search engine to check, except for vacation? It's interesting to compare! Two pages scribbled and no one explained to mere mortals why the Great "vacation" removed the name of a particular tour from the interface? How did this convenience interfere and to whom?
аватар Tigrusya
By the way, when I booked Turkey with Coral, the price was not displayed on the operator's website either. Initially, one was shown, and then, when choosing a room category, it changed. And so for several hotels on the same date
аватар HotLine
When an SUV gets stuck, a tractor from the nearest village comes to pull it out. But for some reason, wealthy people do not want to ride tractors. Holiday.ua was created to meet the most massive needs of potential package tourists. I already wrote about 5%.
For 5% of those who have decided on a hotel, a search mechanism without scrolling is also implemented. To do this, in the upper left field of the search for tours, it is enough to start entering the name of the hotel and then only change the dates and durations.
for selik1954
There is nothing to compare here. The price source is the same. It is incorrect to give a link to another resource here. Turpravda is a project that has grown out of a vacation. Those. These are competitor sites.
Write klichko in a personal
аватар HotLine
THAT vacation never showed. The reasons are obvious. The irony in this case speaks only of a misunderstanding of the meaning of the project. It takes money to create and develop a better engine. We pay this money for vacation - TA. We pay for the fact that tourists book tours with us, choosing a tour for their vacation.ua. Therefore, showing TO does not make any sense. In our specialized selection of tourscanner there is MOT. We need to book.
On the tour page in the vacation selection there is a tour code. When a tourist calls him to us, we can see everything about this tour and immediately check its relevance at the moment.
Holidays could make some kind of minimal paid access for tourists so that there is some additional information for the especially experienced. But I do not think that this will even pay off the monthly salary of one programmer.
аватар HotLine
Regarding the "find" Tigrusya. Smiled.
Go to our website and you will see the same departure information. What do you think, whose tour selection is worth it if we place our coordinates for more than 10 years on vacation?
аватар HotLine
Oh, the Tigrusya post has already been deleted by the moderator of turpravda. Although it is not even a competitor at all. True, this is free advertising. And erroneous.
аватар moy_contakt
In some cases, I already see who offers the tour (there are exceptions, of course). The minimum prices for the tour are shown here and the air carrier is visible in the flight section. Sky up-join up (there is also an opportunity to see and choose the option to fly with another carrier (if any for this tour), Azur-anex. The rest have winrose, UIA, etc. (depending on the chosen direction).
аватар HotLine
By the way. Many, even experienced tourists, do not know that TA is OBLIGED to announce THAT BEFORE concluding a contract for tourist services. This is written in the law.
The contract itself must be concluded according to the operator's template, and the TO and the agreement between the TA and THAT are indicated in the header of this agreement.
аватар selik1954
THAT vacation never showed. The reasons are obvious
hotline. Thanks for the answer. I mean, when I booked a tour in my TA in May, having found on the "search" from one operator 6 thousand cheaper than from another (and on the same plane), was it a website glitch ???
аватар moy_contakt
If the operators are different, then it’s not a glitch, the same winrose is loaded by different operators and their prices can sometimes differ significantly.
аватар selik1954
my_contact. Vacation all spring showed TO. Come on tour - and oil painting. Further, you change, say, the category of the room and, op - another MOT, change the date - the third MOT, etc. But, it turns out "THAT vacation NEVER showed." This is my post, sorry.
аватар HotLine
Oh, these fairy tales, oh, these storytellers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKzpdd48vi8
We have been on holiday for over 10 years. Under almost every tour you will find our details.
I therefore answer in this question, that is absolutely competent to the given question.
When I torture a competent person on a topic that interests me, I try to understand his arguments and information. And I do not argue with him, so as not to look stupid.
аватар klichko
The tractor smiled, although the chances of getting stuck in all-wheel drive with a good engine and head behind the wheel are less than 5%. And diesel even less. The metaphor is completely incomprehensible, too glybako)
"just start entering the name of the hotel"
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I've tried it, but it's still tedious and cumbersome. I came up with a scheme for blond. I google the hotel stupidly in Russian and in a matter of seconds I see a price table without coloring pages. And yet, yes, MOT until recently went under each price list, but right now, not this. The base is really one, and the convenience of the engine is a matter of taste
"It is incorrect to give a link to another resource here"
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I hope they at least listen to you. Moreover, the resource is enemy)
"What do you think, whose selection of the tour is worth it if we place our coordinates for more than 10 years on vacation?"
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One thing is obvious, without the knowledge of TO, this cannot be done. As it is obvious where the legs grow from for all TO (if I correctly deciphered the question))
аватар klichko
Vacation all spring showed TO.
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My search engine also showed. 2 weeks as MOT disappeared under the price tags
аватар selik1954
It is useful for kings to look at the resource more often than once every 5 months. It's easier, of course, to declare someone a storyteller and look stupid. A conversation with a know-it-all I consider further inappropriate.
аватар HotLine
I don't know everything, that's why I answer questions about tourism as an economic activity.
Maybe the vacation did such an experiment at the direction of TO - his right. I did not notice. It's good that I took it off, otherwise it would be illogical, like all the past 10 years.
Although he may soon put online booking - his right.
Tourism as a business will change dramatically over the next few years. The hard years have taught me a lot.
аватар lazy_person
You can talk and argue a lot and endlessly, but this does not change the essence - the site https://www.otpusk.com/ is very useful for an ordinary person (for example, like me) in finding information about the tour, about its cost in various options (catering and room categories), about air carriers, placement on the map, general views, etc. . Everything is in one place..at otpusk.com.
It is clear that not the entire list of hotels available in a particular area is covered by the site. But, probably, this is an impossible task for one site ... there are hardly any that display absolutely everything.
The site is undeniably useful and necessary for us ...
аватар Vika284
You can’t score on vacation in the search only the necessary hotels (several specific hotels) and immediately compare prices, but there are much better tour search engines
аватар ser_____Witness77
this procedure is also tiring to leaf through unnecessary hotels - HotLine you would work hard to improve your search engine ... than to get involved in hopeless disputes - the buyer is always right (s) - have you heard about this) ?
аватар HotLine
ser_____Witness77, you would understand what I have to do with vacation.
Vika284, there is a rule - if something good works according to some scheme, then you first need to understand why it works this way. In the people, this rule sounds like this - you do not need to consider yourself smarter than everyone.
I have already written that vacation offers a professional search for travel agents. The so-called tourscanner. There are any combinations:
- create a list of hotels for search,
- save all search parameters so that later you do not have to enter dates, durations, resorts, a list of hotels again and simply launch such a search at any time,
- choose a list of operators whose prices you want to monitor,
- and many more other goodies that help to professionally make selections of tours.
This is a paid product.
Vika284, You are a smart woman, think for yourself why the vacation looks like this.
Hint - this should explain why vacation is the most visited search engine in Ukraine.
аватар klichko
I think that vacation and others like it stopped shining TO just at the request of TA. After all, profile TAs give a bigger discount. from your partner. The rest of the TAs do not want to be bypassed. As an option, an agreement is MOT, so as not to interfere with each other's life. In any case, business interests. And clients, with their rightness, go together to surrender to TA
аватар moy_contakt
I don't understand what cheese boron is about. They shine then they don't shine. You can immediately see who flies to Egypt and who and other directions. If I have a join up in an emergency, then when I look at the tour, I always see an offer from the join or from someone else. And this is where you can see it on vacation, even in the tourist version. If I monitor the direction (for example, now China), then I clearly know that the joint up is driving here and the compass is trying to compete with it. Everything. And if I want to fly to China, then the choice is small, and again, this can be seen in the tour-mau from the compass, sky-up from the join. What are you talking about .... on vacation there is all the necessary information, absolutely. You can see prices for a different period, for a different number of days and composition.
аватар klichko
Jews do not understand you (c) It is costly to show THAT and these are fairy tales, then it is none of my business and your problems. This is not a Chinese branch, and many people go to it, as by the way. Who cares, the TO list is important to me. Other things being equal, I will choose a relatively reliable one. And I will never fall for even the sweetest ball from a joint and a compass (yet). It was clear, it became cloudy ... who benefits from it? Ashpen is not a tourist. I don't see it on vacation. You can guess from charters (not for everyone and not about everything). Now volens-nevolens will have to be checked with TA
We "broke here" one of the few useful topics. "An expert should share experience, and not condescendingly throw remarks from the pedestal of his experience." Here, it would be nice to be more delicate. Although you can be rougher with us, we are not customers
аватар HotLine
Funny you. And I take an example from you. To make it clear to others, I quote klichko from the next branch:
"What kind of boring are you ... maybe someone will give it) Doesn't your jaw hurt from eternal spitting into a puddle?"
She didn't write to me (a representative of the travel industry).
On the topic - no one wrote that showing TO is expensive. Prices are not taken out of thin air.
In our (professional) selection from a vacation, from the price, you can immediately go to booking a tour in the operator's system. Those. do not repeat the search on the operator's website again.
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