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Dear Sirs! I have never been to Italy, but I really want to, please tell me. where to start, so that it is both interesting and tasty and not expensive for the money? Thanks.
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And specifically in Venice. I do not recommend staying in hotels on the island, expensive, often damp. From my experience - Mestre, there are decent comfortable hotels, there are supermarkets and even a "Gastronom", we took prosciutto, cheese, vegetables, a bottle of good wine for dinner, up to a maximum of 5 euros, and enjoyed an Italian evening on the balcony. You can find a hotel in Lido di Venezia, near the sea. Also good! And close to the center of Venice by vaporetto! In the photo hotels in Mestre -
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answered 8 years ago
AllOverTheWorld you don't seem to notice what you write and how) but oh well. It's up to you. You have everything that costs less than you ate. A priori bad.)) The fact that Italians consider Venice an expensive city does not mean that this city is really expensive. Compared to your own Kharkov and our Kiev, and even more so Moscow .. it is much cheaper. But that's not the point. And the fact that we don’t know what is expensive for the author and what is not. And as ollennka wrote, everyone has their own concept of “inexpensive”, which I’ve been trying to write to you for some time already .. You see only what you want to see and hear.
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alex45, I definitely will not support the idea of a cruise)). Because I'm afraid of open water when the shore is not visible.
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The cruise is wonderful, super comfortable trip, especially if you want to see a lot of things. The downside for me is, often, early arrivals at the port at 7 am, for example, and at 1 pm already sail (it all depends on the route). But, if to look at a lot of places far from each other at a time, it’s really a cruise and transfers by train / air, that’s what it comes out for money. And now there are discounts on cruises (with a trip until mid-May, it seems).
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answered 8 years ago
Venice is cheaper than Kharkiv))))))
and what?, than Kharkov ....))))
Like you...see what you want to see....
I asked the author at the very beginning about the budget ...
about the fact that eating on your own is cheaper than in a cafe, I also wrote earlier ....
do you track my nutrition and its cost? specifically, where did I write that my eating habits are "standard"? and everything that is cheaper than the cost of my food is bad? Do not get personal ..... I don’t need to try to write anything ... I didn’t ask any questions ... everyone will remain with their own opinion ....
and what?, than Kharkov ....))))
Like you...see what you want to see....
I asked the author at the very beginning about the budget ...
about the fact that eating on your own is cheaper than in a cafe, I also wrote earlier ....
do you track my nutrition and its cost? specifically, where did I write that my eating habits are "standard"? and everything that is cheaper than the cost of my food is bad? Do not get personal ..... I don’t need to try to write anything ... I didn’t ask any questions ... everyone will remain with their own opinion ....
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answered 8 years ago
alex45... you are already a tourist with experience, you have been and seen a lot ..... it always seemed to me that cruises are a consolidation of the traveled tourist material) but as for a novice traveler it is better to start with 1-maximum 3 cities at a time) and again ... so many factors ..... the duration of the trip, the priorities of the tourist and, where without it, the budget;)
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The cruise is good around the islands, I think. Like the Galapagos or the Caribbean. Then an organized ship will be more convenient and cheaper than a series of ferries and boats. And if in Europe, then the cruise will be limited to port cities, you won’t have time to see something further inland, because parking is usually part-time everywhere.
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AllOverTheWorld I know that it’s useless to write to you, but this is your “you can eat French fries with bread for 10€ ... if it’s delicious, then I don’t argue with you” and this is “25€ for two is not expensive?) for one meal?) 800 UAH for lunch for two is not expensive ... ok) that is, for a week, if you eat at least once a day for two 5600 UAH)
delicious, high quality and not expensive (by our, Ukrainian standards) in Europe cannot be ... "and here's another ". (Rome is absolutely not tasty and expensive" If potatoes in Italy are tasty for you, for God's sake ... " and here's another) "Where did I write that it's expensive for me?" and again about potatoes)) These are all your words and your text. Am I the only one seeing this? )0 I'm not for the dispute, for honesty!.
delicious, high quality and not expensive (by our, Ukrainian standards) in Europe cannot be ... "and here's another ". (Rome is absolutely not tasty and expensive" If potatoes in Italy are tasty for you, for God's sake ... " and here's another) "Where did I write that it's expensive for me?" and again about potatoes)) These are all your words and your text. Am I the only one seeing this? )0 I'm not for the dispute, for honesty!.
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I answer about cruises and why I suggested them to TS. This is what she asked - "where to start, so that it is both interesting and tasty and not expensive for the money?" I don't write about anything I haven't tried myself.
So, you won’t drag me on bus routes and I don’t recommend them to anyone, purely because I don’t want to depend on anyone. If you flew to the same Europe, further along the route or car rental, or trains that connect any piece of Europe with each other.
Regarding early arrivals and departures, I paid attention to this when I went on MSC cruises, they believe that Europeans see Europe enough, and therefore they have short calls to ports. It is better to take cruises from American companies, they have daylight hours . I will not talk about the Caribbean or the Galapagos, at least visit the Canaries (islands of eternal spring) on a cruise. Ollennka is afraid of the open sea, she is not afraid of the open air ocean. But in vain! There are more plane crashes than at sea! And it is a sea cruise for a novice traveler!
So, you won’t drag me on bus routes and I don’t recommend them to anyone, purely because I don’t want to depend on anyone. If you flew to the same Europe, further along the route or car rental, or trains that connect any piece of Europe with each other.
Regarding early arrivals and departures, I paid attention to this when I went on MSC cruises, they believe that Europeans see Europe enough, and therefore they have short calls to ports. It is better to take cruises from American companies, they have daylight hours . I will not talk about the Caribbean or the Galapagos, at least visit the Canaries (islands of eternal spring) on a cruise. Ollennka is afraid of the open sea, she is not afraid of the open air ocean. But in vain! There are more plane crashes than at sea! And it is a sea cruise for a novice traveler!
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answered 8 years ago
A novice traveler spends the night in a comfortable cabin, and not in a 2-3 star hotel in the outskirts of the city (well, they won’t accommodate a traveler in the center on a bus tour!). I talked about food, eats in a restaurant, eats various delicacies, wants to spend money in a casino, or shopping in Duty Free stores or tasting wines from the wine cellar in the bars of the liner, and that’s all while sailing in the sea! He will get this on the bus, at best, a more or less good chair. snoring neighbor and toilet on command! It's a casino on a ship
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No, planes, along with trains, regularly rank at the top of the list of safe modes of transport. Water transport is far behind in terms of safety.
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a budget bus tour can be taken for 200 euros) Alex45 are there cruises at this price? well, or at least 500 €?) if you compared it with an air tour, well, it didn’t go anywhere ....
well, compare a cruise with budget bus tours .... if you please ...
well, compare a cruise with budget bus tours .... if you please ...
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AllOverTheWorld, there are cruises for 500 euros and much cheaper. By subscribing to the mailing list from cruise companies and planning a year ahead, it is fashionable to drink a crisis for 200 euros per person in the Mediterranean and the Baltic Seas. Or about Scandinavia. Cruises have one significant inconvenience. Logistics to the port of departure and from the port of arrival. We do not always have the opportunity to buy tickets for the desired dates at good prices. From Ukraine, neither Ryanair, nor EasyJet, nor Norwegians, nor Germanwings are patched with their tariffs from 9.99 per segment. Sometimes, you have to spend the night in the city of arrival or departure, get to the ports by bus or train. Often, this all can cost as much as another cruise. Planning a cruise is no easy task. But the cruise itself is not at all a vacation for the rich, as one might think. Americans generally save on cruises. Nowhere on land in North America can you drink, eat and sleep for $299 per person. And, moving away from Florida to the Bahamas, quite.
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I am a guru in Italy)))
My first tour was with a group, and after that I traveled on my own and visited many parts of Italy, from the north to the southernmost point of Sicily - Portopalo.
The advice is correct, you need to start from the north. Verona, Milan, Florence (necessarily Siena and San Gimignano, Montecatini Terme) Rome, Naples and of course Venice.
I have been to Venice several times and one of them was at the carnival. This is something!!! But I agree, Venice is not the cheapest city.
It's best to take a tour.
It turned out not expensive in May in Sicily ... inexpensive, interesting and tasty)))
They lived in Balestrate, traveled all over the west coast and sailed to the islands.
I am adding a photo. This is Erici overlooking Trapani and the islands of Favignana and Levanza.
But this is after you look north ...)))
My first tour was with a group, and after that I traveled on my own and visited many parts of Italy, from the north to the southernmost point of Sicily - Portopalo.
The advice is correct, you need to start from the north. Verona, Milan, Florence (necessarily Siena and San Gimignano, Montecatini Terme) Rome, Naples and of course Venice.
I have been to Venice several times and one of them was at the carnival. This is something!!! But I agree, Venice is not the cheapest city.
It's best to take a tour.
It turned out not expensive in May in Sicily ... inexpensive, interesting and tasty)))
They lived in Balestrate, traveled all over the west coast and sailed to the islands.
I am adding a photo. This is Erici overlooking Trapani and the islands of Favignana and Levanza.
But this is after you look north ...)))
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Another item of expenditure on cruises is an alcohol package and tips. On most cruises, the all-inclusive package includes, at best, light beer and a limited amount of dry wine. If you do not depend on branded alcohol, this can be limited. On the first day, the amount of charming tips is blocked on your card. This is about 10-15 dollars per day of travel. Tearing kesh is welcome, but completely optional. All crew and staff knows that you have already left your types anyway. And, of course, excursions. An organized excursion for 3-5 hours from the liner will cost from 50 euros per person with lunch. But no one can forbid you to walk on your own. The main thing is not to forget that you must be in the port at least an hour before departure. Liners never wait for anyone.
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as in 90% of cases ... there is a lot of reasoning ... but silence from the author of the question ....
we don’t know the budget, we don’t know the priorities of the rest, we don’t know the number of days and even the season when the trip is planned ....
we don’t know the budget, we don’t know the priorities of the rest, we don’t know the number of days and even the season when the trip is planned ....
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And why should we climb into the pocket of the author? You can go to the same Rome for 500 dollars, and for 1500, let her decide for herself what level of comfort and for how many days she will have enough money. We also know the priorities in large strokes: "interesting and tasty and not expensive for the money," if he wants to set additional criteria, he will unsubscribe.
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And here is the final statement. I about "seems." I will not say proverbs about "it seems" when they are baptized.
I think it's better to try, then it will not seem! I'm not talking about those people who are terribly afraid of water expanses, but there are those who justify themselves in this way that they don't want it. Okay, what does he say, I'm afraid of storms or the depths under my feet. I showed an American liner in the photo, it is of medium size, there are even more, up to 5 thousand passengers on board and a couple of thousand crew. As an example, we were going to the Atlantic, we are already going to bed, but I drive a little, I thought from alcohol. And this is a good wave overboard, but it is not felt on the liner.
I think it's better to try, then it will not seem! I'm not talking about those people who are terribly afraid of water expanses, but there are those who justify themselves in this way that they don't want it. Okay, what does he say, I'm afraid of storms or the depths under my feet. I showed an American liner in the photo, it is of medium size, there are even more, up to 5 thousand passengers on board and a couple of thousand crew. As an example, we were going to the Atlantic, we are already going to bed, but I drive a little, I thought from alcohol. And this is a good wave overboard, but it is not felt on the liner.
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answered 8 years ago
I'm not afraid of panic, but an unpleasant, dreary feeling when the shore is not visible.
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what a perky discussion of Italy turned out to be. She certainly does not leave anyone indifferent). And the author, I think, will draw her own conclusions and maybe later we will read her story about a trip to Italy.
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"a budget bus tour can be taken for 200 euros." AllOverTheWorld, you can't hear me! In addition to budget, i.e. cheapness there is such a thing as comfort of rest, for me it is more important!
I have the opportunity, if a trip around the continent, to rent a car or buy a train ticket with discounts, or in extreme cases - to ride in my car.
I am familiar with the conditions for traveling by bus. Once you know how often buses were brought to the center of a large city in Italy, and not to the outskirts, from where you have to get to the center by public transport. Where in Venice is the parking of such buses, then the "divorce" on boats along the lagoon, and this is the budget ?! And hotels in the next town!
And for alcohol! I don’t take alcohol packages, they are very expensive there, I bring them from the city, there are a lot of cruises where they look at it through their fingers. As far as I understand, we have a woman, let men treat her with wine !!!
I have the opportunity, if a trip around the continent, to rent a car or buy a train ticket with discounts, or in extreme cases - to ride in my car.
I am familiar with the conditions for traveling by bus. Once you know how often buses were brought to the center of a large city in Italy, and not to the outskirts, from where you have to get to the center by public transport. Where in Venice is the parking of such buses, then the "divorce" on boats along the lagoon, and this is the budget ?! And hotels in the next town!
And for alcohol! I don’t take alcohol packages, they are very expensive there, I bring them from the city, there are a lot of cruises where they look at it through their fingers. As far as I understand, we have a woman, let men treat her with wine !!!
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Lena! I feel that I am familiar with the topic.
“Sometimes, I have to spend the night in the city of arrival or departure,” so I always arrive at the port of departure in advance, at least a day in advance.
So it was in Venice, in Genoa, in Rome.
“Sometimes, I have to spend the night in the city of arrival or departure,” so I always arrive at the port of departure in advance, at least a day in advance.
So it was in Venice, in Genoa, in Rome.
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answered 8 years ago
each sandpiper praises his swamp ....
Personally, I don’t feel like going on a cruise yet, I prefer a different type of vacation ...
everyone is entitled to their opinion....
someone likes to "gallop across Europe", and someone doesn't like it ... I'm a supporter of mono-rest)
Maybe in 10 years I'll want to go on a cruise...
for sure what I don’t want is a bus driver ...
Happy spring everyone and have a nice weekend...
Personally, I don’t feel like going on a cruise yet, I prefer a different type of vacation ...
everyone is entitled to their opinion....
someone likes to "gallop across Europe", and someone doesn't like it ... I'm a supporter of mono-rest)
Maybe in 10 years I'll want to go on a cruise...
for sure what I don’t want is a bus driver ...
Happy spring everyone and have a nice weekend...
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And I didn’t persuade anyone here, I just told the TC my opinion, where you can relax very comfortably, and also see Italy. Sitting in one place and learning a lot about Italy is difficult, if not impossible. And so, with comfortable crossings (swimming) quite!
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We started our acquaintance with Italy by buying a tour in Rimini. The hotel was called Villa Derna. This is a small family hotel located in the very center of the city (a very convenient location, you can’t imagine more conveniently and you can cross the road to the sea). We had breakfasts and dinners. The breakfasts were ordinary, I won’t write about them, but for dinner they prepared Italian dishes for us and the hostess herself cooked them, to choose from the menu (not a buffet). It was just amazing, very tasty. And all this was included in the price of the ticket. We still went to local cafes, we could not resist, and we wanted to compare. Everything was great in the cafe, but if we talk about "inexpensive", then you can, as an option, consider such a small hotel where the Italians themselves cook.
About Italy itself: we bought bus tours to Venice and Florence at travel agencies, of which there are a great many. We took the train to Bologna.
About Italy itself: we bought bus tours to Venice and Florence at travel agencies, of which there are a great many. We took the train to Bologna.
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And we also traveled around small towns near Rimini - San Leo, Urbino and the Republic of San Marino. These are easy trips, but very interesting. The charm of small Italian towns is in no way inferior to such tourist centers as Florence and Venice. We went to these cities on buses, tickets for which we bought in tourist centers, they are there on every corner, and their prices are an order of magnitude cheaper than travel agencies. One catch: The tour guide talks about the place in eng.nem.fr. languages, but not in Russian. If you know any language, then it's not a problem, if there is no Internet to help, as they say.
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Question: how to start a trip to Italy? We need to figure it out. Author, do you want to visit Italy once and see the most significant places and objects, or do you plan to see Italy in several visits? If at one time you don’t know where to start, then it’s better to make a sightseeing tour of the most touristic places. Make up the route in such a way that there are no unnecessary crossings - kilometers. You can find on the Internet a tour operator in Italy who works with Russian speakers and order a review for 7 days "Classic Italy". It is best to fly to Milan, then Florence, the province of Tuscany, Rome, you can visit the Vatican, the dwarf state of San Marino. And departure from Rome. Thus, in a short period of time you will see (of course) a lot of objects and visit several cities. And if you still want to visit Italy several times, then start from Rome and end with a rest on the sea coast, at least a couple of days for relaxation, and the flight back is also from Rome.
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We had a great meal in Venice for two adults + 2 children for 25 euros - mozzarella cheese, fresh tomatoes, prosciutto, the freshest baguette, a package of fruits (apples, bananas), water, juice for children, delicious cookies.
We sat on the San Marco square on the steps - ate and went on)
Where to visit - Author, here I advise you to start with where there are the cheapest tickets. We started from Milan-Verona-Venice-Lake Garda.
Now we are going to the South (Naples-Calabria-Sicily)
We sat on the San Marco square on the steps - ate and went on)
Where to visit - Author, here I advise you to start with where there are the cheapest tickets. We started from Milan-Verona-Venice-Lake Garda.
Now we are going to the South (Naples-Calabria-Sicily)
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